Tinker-tank Bhaalgorn for Emerging Conduits

Why?

All decently good isk/hr activity should be in null?

This is exactly right, for many it is simply math rather then the purity of a gank, I always fly cheap, faction or officer mods are just a waste of isk because of the target you get, fly cheap I say, t-1 ships and cheap t-2 mods.
Anything more gets you looked at then at and I like to disappoint.

Have them in Null as well as High Sec.

Sorry if that wasnā€™t clear.

As for the gank itā€™s called ā€˜funā€™. When there isnā€™t enough of it you only have about 4% of your new people staying on. Which was the situation in June, before Black-out hit. As numbers continue to drop generally too.

Could happen. They already started moving invasions from only HS to HS and LS. Iā€™d guess that the next step is to move them into null.

In Null I wouldnā€™t have had to sit there like a d*ck waiting for 30m of cheap pap to trash a good weekā€™s mining.

I can replace her, but I donā€™t see the point.

As for the Trigs I believe they are not set up well enough at this stage. Newbros being blown away in like 2 seconds areā€¦ I just think that mistakes have been made.

And yes I am in the camp that believes that 0.8ā€™s ( of all places ) should be safe enough. But thatā€™s a separate issue.

I saw many a newbro popped.

Has there been any update from EVE Vegas about how many newbros last more than 3 months? The data I know was from June this year.

yeah, they made a mistake in their fit. Nowadays ventures need a MSE.

Iā€™m in the ā€˜make High Sec saferā€™ camp. Ease people in that way, instead of just blapping them.

Ease people in? Why do you guys always make it sound like it is all about the new players?

If you arenā€™t keeping the game filled with players it dies. EVE has had a notoriously difficult time with new player retention. As it ages old players drift away. New players are kinda important.

Does that really need to be explained?

The honest answer?

Code blaps newbs. Gankers generally blap newbs. Scammers scam. And the market has shifted, so Millennials have less spending power compared to back in 2006-7 ( pre-crash ).

If the game is too hard then people will head off to play games like Warcrack. Theyā€™re already needing lube for their real-world jobs.

And some of us would like our hobby to last a few more years.

So yes, Iā€™d say that newbs matter. My 2p.

I think in general HS is sufficiently safe. However an intrepid capsuleer recently confirmed that emerging conduits, and as such roaming trig scouts are in almost all HS systems. This seems like a bit of overkill. I thought I had heard somewhere (I could be wrong) that the idea of emerging conduits was sort of a signal of a coming invasion, so youā€™d find them scattered in areas of HS, not in practically every system.

This chump lost a Golem. He is upset about that. He now is making the argument that what he really cares about is the new players. It is a very common, and fake, argument.

He may be a bit salty about his loss. But he isnā€™t wrong about the importance of new players. More than one thing can be true at the same time.

Nope, this chump was fragged amazingly-easy in a 0.8.

The fit worked. It was fun too. But the 0.8 was a bit flimsy. Which then leads into the Null argument. I could have fought back then.

Content keeps people entertained.

Did you even have your bastion module on during the gank?

Caught trying to warp. They knew that one. Bastion would have saved me, but it didnā€™t activate. Warp etc.

And the rest was over in a couple of seconds.

I was already gambling 2b on the prototype not exploding in an Incursion kinda way ( as they can. No SRP ). Iā€™m just disappointed in that 0.8.

You keep making the argument that it should be impossible for 16 guys to kill you solo. You also make the argument that your Marauder should be a pwnmachine. The price you paid for the ship is completely irrelevant to game balance - it is like arguing that having Plex in your cargo should make you ungankable.

You made some piloting errors. There are some lessons you could learn here to perform better the next time. You did not lose because the game is unfair.

If you want to start a separate thread about ganking newbros in starter systems then we can discuss that topic separately.

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A group of 16 woulda popped you in a few seconds in null as well. They just would have kept their ships.

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What piloting error? I sit there for 3 hours until they get bored?

The Marauder is a fun ship, butā€¦ I donā€™t think safe-log would have worked.

If Iā€™m wrong fair enough, butā€¦ 0.8 man. That is another thread. As is the 4% new-player retention rate.

And yes, how easy it was in a 0.8 is concerning. Iā€™d like more eyes for next time, & I can get those in Null.
If sec status doesnā€™t mean anything thenā€¦