I don’t know. I’ve gotten positive remarks for actually taking a stand.
Crases gets nothing because he’s been trying to help the Khanid from day one. Oh, sure, he’s shuffled from foot to foot and complained while doing it, but the actions he’s actually committed to taking have been: trying to help secure Khanid air space to prevent fleeing craft from escaping or relief craft from landing, to the point of having to be told to stop by SFRIM leadership, to assisting Amarr capsuleers shoot down relief forces (however low the chance was for those forces to actually make it to the surface).
[ 2018.10.24 17:12:51 ] Kithrus > Thaila Lemrenoy get your damned providence out of our space.
[ 2018.10.24 17:15:00 ] Thaila Lemrenoy > This providence is purely there to help. It does no harm.
[ 2018.10.24 17:15:23 ] Kithrus > The blockade is absolute, nothing goes up or down
[ 2018.10.24 17:15:34 ] Kithrus > I dont like it but thats how it has to be
[ 2018.10.24 17:18:03 ] Kithrus > I’m sorry but if anyone leave or enters the planet from that ship I will shoot them down
[ 2018.10.24 17:22:01 ] Kithrus > If you press this issue I will have my people destroy the providence as soon as possible leave it here at your own risk
[ 2018.10.24 17:22:25 ] Garion Avarr > “Aspirant. It is not our job to enforce the Kingdom’s blockade. We will not interfere with it, but we will not enforce it for them. Stand down.”
[ 2018.10.24 17:23:09 ] Kithrus > Understood
Of course, SFRIM ended up turning around and helping the Khanid enforce it anyway.
And you? Well…
No. You whine, because you’re spoiled and upset that you and your people have to deal with a little hardship for once in your lives.
Often times when there is an issue (to understate what is happening) in the Amarr Empire, the Imperial Loyalist Bloc will often say that it’s an internal issue and they will handle it. I believe this was often said of the Butcher.
Any chance that we would believe this going forward has been completely shattered. The Imperial Loyalist Bloc is either unable or unwilling to prevent a massacre of millions of people.
You think any of those people were going to survive to be extracted without force of arms?
There were only two sides to this: Help the rebels, or help the Khanid. There was no ‘safe middle area’, like SFRIM likes to try and settle itself into. Without military aid, the rebels would lose, and if the rebels lost, they would all die to show the cost of defiance. With military aid, the rebels might have been able to hold out long enough to win concessions from the Khanid government… and if not, then at least given more time for refugees to escape.
SFRIM chose to help enforce the Khanid blockade. Even if the UK forces had no chance of making it to the surface, and they didn’t, SFRIM sent a message about which side it was on: That you’ll talk a big game about helping slaves, but when everything hits the fan, you’ll take the side of the butchers.
All because you thought a military intervention would “make things worse”. Well, I’m sure the slaves on the surface felt that things would be “made worse” if they received military aid. I’m sure they weren’t looking on with hope that the relief forces would get through. I’m sure those slaves won’t now look on at SFRIM and see an enemy.
If you start a planetwide genocide of Minmatar… yeah, it’s kind of a ■■■■ or get off the pot moment. You pick the side of horrifying mass murder or you pick the side of saving as many as you can. There’s no middle road and there’s no “Oh we’re just stopping terrorists”, when stopping said “terrorists” is equal to that many more dead slaves, that could otherwise have been saved.
PIE, SFRIM etc picked a side. It’s not unexpected of course, but that there’s so much pretense of it being anything but what it is… well, that’s just disgusting.
Stand by the damn choice, or don’t make it in the first place.
It’s funny because people think that apparently ‘terrorism’ is a goal in and of itself. That “terrorists” are just some monster lurking in the dark waiting for opportunities to pounce and cause mischief.
No, terrorism is a path to achieve a desired goal. The goal, in this case, being the protection of the slaves on the surface who were being butchered by the Khanid.
“Oh, we’re just stopping terrorists.” Sure. But they were terrorists for the cause of the rebels. The rebels and “terrorists” are not two separate sides that you can deal with individually. “We can fight the terrorists and save the slaves both. :)” No. No you cannot. The terrorists were a military relief force for the rebels, who by all accounts were badly losing the war on the surface. By attacking them, you attacked the rebels.
Of course we attacked the rebels. The Kingdom afforded them no chance, and we helped grant them the mercy of being free from the illusion that U’K might offer them hope.
Sure. I’ll tell that to one of the two people who stopped his final, ‘glorious’ attempt to demand a direct answer from his god by sacrificing a million slaves.
Neither of them seems to agree with you on this, though.
She didn’t much agree with it when we kept blowing up his towers citadels, over and over and over again. Wasting our time, she said. You know, since we’re just hypocritical Amarr - Amarr can never possibly help slaves.