Ganker = wolf , Gankee = prey
And Griefing = Toxic, Griefee = Stop Omega subscription Log off play a different game.
Hello Kitty Island Adventure?
I was making a distinction between Ganking and Griefing there is a big difference.
Ganking is fine, Griefing is Toxic and has no place in any game.
describe what the difference is then?
Ganking for high value cargo risk vs reward
Griefing is killing people in starter ships and miners with no value just kill to ruin someone’s fun, low level players that can’t fight back and don’t understand the mechanics etc.
Griefing has caused so many to stop playing EVE and the #1 complaint in the forums since launch.
EVE would be over 300k active players easy not 20-30k that its at.
the player base is aging out most are in 40’s 50’s and 60’s we need to attract new players to the game before it’s to late to do so.
They need more than one system to learn the game.
they just quit. 99% don’t even go to the forums they just quit and move on.
People that don’t care about the game flame and troll forum posts like these, they dont if game dies they want easy kills for their insecurity’s
Those that care about the future of the game understand something must be done
CCP defines what griefing is in Eve, not risk averse trolls.
This guy was wardeccing newbros before I came to the game. He’s got some nerve lecturing any of us about new players. He’s just an old worn out hasbeen (neverwas) who wants to AFK mine, pretending to care about noobs.
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Lies and gaslighting again nothing constructive just toxicity.
Im in nul sec have been for years, not in hi-sec
And im not pretending im serious about growing and retaining our player base.
You’re not you only care is being as toxic as possible in game and IRL
Compared to you, I’m the new player.
Everyone can see that.
Says the hypocrite carebear who drops an entire fleet on a corvette.
again and again…
Think of the new players he cries…
…only after his own mining alt dies…
It’s not for profit griefing, he says…
cuz he knows what he does…
SHAME ON YOU!!!
Those are war dec targets assclown not a single one of those is a gank or a grief
So it’s not griefing when you harass new players via a wardec?
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It’s not griefing when you call new players an assclown?
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Mining isn’t supposed to be safe in High, Low, Null, WH, Poch, or anything in-between. That’s been true since this game’s inception. Write-ups always included the need to protect mining ops.
That’s not griefing. Griefing is the continued attack of the same person over and over to ruin his fun and make him quit the game. That’s actually against the Terms of Service.
Let’s not forget that for many Eve Online is a way of life.
Like writing in your diary or reading a few more pages of your novel before turning off the light to then fall asleep while knowing that you made a little progress both in your Real Life and in New Eden .
Sleep well Pilots o7
Mining Permit
Wow.
So much of your b!tching and moaning seems to be based of the fact that you simply don’t understand the words you’re using. You don’t get to define what griefing and ganking are, hypocrite.
What a load of nonsense.
How can someone who’s been in the game 10 years, and is thus living proof that people can and do survive being noobs, complain that people are not surviving being noobs ? Where is the logic in that ?
And as Aiko points out, you were yourself attacking newbros back in 2016….including one newbro whom killboard has no further records for after you attacked his Procurer. The newbro would appear to have left. The irony !
Though we’ve had our differences, I have to commend your own spirit of defiance. In one form or another it is what differentiates the survivors from the quitters. EVE is a state of mind…a dogged determination. And people either have it, or they don’t.

