Like I said, we have no little information to form am educated opinion.
Have you seen the new Edencom ships…the design and names are segzy.
Can’t the “freedom” loving players just go to sov null, while noobs and industrialists live in high sec like it’s always been? Bye bye trigs, life goes back to normal.
I am pointing out that you are moaning bitterly about your war targets not fighting back when it is your fault based on your target selection.
I am…so confused right now. I haven’t complained about anything. I went back and reread what I wrote to make sure I didn’t post something in a drunken stupor, and…nothing. None of my posts had anything to do with expressing dissatisfaction of any sort whatsoever.
Can you point out what you consider as “moaning bitterly”? I’m genuinely at a loss here.
You complained about hisec carebears not fighting you when they out-numbered you. Which caused me and another player to reply to you, with me simply pointing out that many indy corps are totally indy focussed in terms of skills, you then doubled down by saying most that you come across who are indy players are bots.
The thing is that you are not getting any satisfaction from that play, so have you thought about adjusting what you go after? You seem to think I am trolling, but it is a genuine point that I have made to many war deckers on the forums over many years. You need to select the people you war dec to be what you want, and you will perhaps be less bitter and get better fights. I am not down playing how difficult it is by any means, but I actually looked at your war dec history before making my comment.
Anyway I have to go and do some RL stuff. But at least think about it.
EvE Online is what you make it. Only the crass and brash mentality of the Caldari looking to make ISK on everything to rule the entire Universe would say that EvE is PvP and nothing more.
You complained about hisec carebears not fighting you when they out-numbered you.
Where?
you then doubled down by saying most that you come across who are indy players are bots.
I did?
The thing is that you are not getting any satisfaction from that play
How do you know this?
You need to select the people you war dec to be what you want, and you will perhaps be less bitter and get better fights.
I’m bitter?
I’m actually very proud of what I’ve achieved. I kept my accounts subbed and provided regular payouts for my rotating crew from the ransoms and mercenary work. Doing this stuff was objectively the highlight of my EVE career, and I’ve done everything the game offered with the exception of being a supercap pilot.
I think that you should reread my posts, because it’s likely that you’re biased in a way that makes you interpret them as complaints, when in fact they’re merely observations drawn from my experiences. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt for now…
Like I said, we have no little information to form am educated opinion.
When did that ever stop anyone spouting on these forums ?
The ships are ugly
Now you are marked for extirpation.
I think he means (after reading your posts and War-Dec history), that if you want Hi-Sec action you should war-dec fighting corps, not pure indy-corps. If the intention is making isk, annoying industrial players or carebears there will not be much of an opposition, that should not be expected.
I am sorry to have jumped in, but you keep pretending to not understand what he said, but both he and the other guy, who keeps saying that PvP is fundamently different then PvE seem to also not deliver on facts. That to-and-fro is rather pointless.
Btw.: the main difference for me regarding PvE and PvP is the thrill you feel, when you go up against another player(s). It settles after a while and is different if playing in a fleet or solo, but PvE does not deliver on this.
I am sorry to have jumped in, but you keep pretending to not understand what he said
I really don’t.
He used terms like “angry” and “moaned bitterly,” which are objectively false.
Have to agree, you described your observations and about your experience. Thanks for that, it gives a good enough inside to see you are an impassioned masochist I would not survive in such a “carebear” corp for a day.
But for a lot of people what you do sounds barely tolerable from a morale point of view, so you need to deal with aggressive responses also on subconscious levels …
So is that CCP’s final nail before the inevitable and forever wave goodbye for the game ?
Turn all of the game into low-null space in one final big battle ?
Turn all of the game into low-null space in one final big battle ?
No, already more invaded systems were fortified by Edencom, than were taken by Triglavians.
Rumors about high sec dying are exaggerated.
So is that CCP’s final nail before the inevitable and forever wave goodbye for the game ?
Turn all of the game into low-null space in one final big battle ?
Seems like that’s where it’s heading, definitely make news headlines, make that bonus pay and go out with a big bang.
No, already more invaded systems were fortified by Edencom, than were taken by Triglavians.
Rumors about high sec dying are exaggerated.
Alright, oh well.
Seems like that’s where it’s heading, definitely make news headlines, make that bonus pay and go out with a big bang.
Well it would be a nice way to go tbh, brought flashbacks of Freespace 2 and the Shivan invasion/ending …
Hell Trig ships looks were totally inspired off Shivan ship designs.
https://wiki.hard-light.net/index.php/Blue_Planet_ships_data#SF_Manticore
That game was/is the dog’s bollocks !
Have to agree, you described your observations and about your experience. Thanks for that, it gives a good enough inside to see you are an impassioned masochist I would not survive in such a “carebear” corp for a day.
But for a lot of people what you do sounds barely tolerable from a morale point of view, so you need to deal with aggressive responses also on subconscious levels …
Actually, it’s not as bad as you might think. I controlled the rates of destruction, intentionally threw fights and did other things to keep enemy morale at acceptable levels, and generally steered the conflicts in a way that left the targets intact. Then I offered buyouts to end the wars and offered my services for training/advising, and helping out in future conflicts.
A few groups have taken these offers, but the grand majority ignored them, or worse, told me off. They usually disbanded not long after that, or, if I couldn’t get anything else out of them and got tired, I would go away, leaving them to their own devices. I would keep an eye on those people, and would usually note that they got new wars from other high-sec pirates, making the same mistakes and taking the same losses they did with us. Had they taken me up on my offer, they wouldn’t be in that position again, but…¯\ _(ツ) _/¯
I was always polite, always honored ransoms, always honored duels (even though they sometimes wouldn’t), and even helped out individual target members off the record when they showed initiative. Actually, that’s how I made a bunch of my closest EVE friends - they were ex-targets who were really impressed and intrigued about what I was doing, and ended up joining me.
I could’ve been just another high-sec merc who farmed kills all day, but I think that would’ve been boring. What I did was quite unique.
Unfortunately, these days such gameplay is almost impossible to pull off. Ironically, in their drive to “improve” high-sec conflict mechanics, CCP created a system in which the only viable activity is to be just another high-sec merc who farms kills all day. So that’s what I’ll be doing now on, I guess.
I’m bitter?
You came over to me as being bitter from the point you said my head was full of spaghetti and I was a troll, I merely told you that why you were not getting good fights when you were out-numbered in local.
I’m actually very proud of what I’ve achieved. I kept my accounts subbed and provided regular payouts for my rotating crew from the ransoms and mercenary work. Doing this stuff was objectively the highlight of my EVE career, and I’ve done everything the game offered with the exception of being a supercap pilot.
Pretty similar to me actually, only missing out of living for an extended period out of a WH and a Titan, I did actually pilot a Super at one point with an account that someone gave to me and then he wanted it back when he had second thoughts. But it was a great experience.
Sounds like you are doing great, and creating content for a group of people, o7 on that.
I think that you should reread my posts, because it’s likely that you’re biased in a way that makes you interpret them as complaints, when in fact they’re merely observations drawn from my experiences. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt for now…
I know what you wrote, so many hisec war deckers write similar posts, being surprised that even out-numbered the carebear does not engage. I just tried to explain why:
I think he means (after reading your posts and War-Dec history), that if you want Hi-Sec action you should war-dec fighting corps, not pure indy-corps. If the intention is making isk, annoying industrial players or carebears there will not be much of an opposition, that should not be expected.
That is really what I was getting at.
I really don’t.
He used terms like “angry” and “moaned bitterly,” which are objectively false.
I think you will find I added angry after you referred to my head being full of spaghetti, and used moaning bitterly after you called me a troll. Prior to that I was pointing out that your target selection was perhaps the issue and was pointing out the issue.
Unfortunately, these days such gameplay is almost impossible to pull off. Ironically, in their drive to “improve” high-sec conflict mechanics, CCP created a system in which the only viable activity is to be just another high-sec merc who farms kills all day. So that’s what I’ll be doing now on, I guess.
Have you thought about opposing other mercs for fights?
Because choices should have consequences, right? EVE is supposed to be dangerous, right?
Or is that only for people who make choices you disagree with?
yeah but we all know thats a load of bull, all ccp has done is water down the “consequences” the preach of having. all standings mean with factions is in hisec the hating empire shoots you, but you cant be friends with pirates in null sec like empire, fw the navy fires at you but you can still dock in stations in your enemy space thats held by the enemy, and theres so many loop holes in being negative sec status its nothing. Also EvE: Alts Online.