Trolling EULA and Forum PVP

[Shipwreck_Jones]

I didn’t mean to imply the backlash was because of the pictures, just trying to clarify who I was talking about because I couldn’t remember her name.

At any rate, yes, companies can and do lie. But people also can and do astroturf and argue in bad faith as well. And there are many players with narratives of their own that they want spun.

So, what’s the truth of the matter, and who we should trust, how far, and when? Well, I think we could debate that until the heat death of the universe. In the meantime, however, I’ll try to maintain a healthy skepticism when it comes to anything anyone says, especially when it’s an argument that reflects my values, beliefs, and priorities.

[Ryan_B_Thiesant]

What has this got to do with forum pvp?

@Matthew_Falzoni

@CCP_Paragon

I hope this answers the topic and I do like discussing these things in general so if there’s something else then fire away.

Well, since you asked, there was a period of time when CCP would start off a thread in ‘slow mode’ which was really annoying and I have seen the offical forumthreads for patch notes getting locked. Tthere is this really annoying red star icon on my neocom I can’t get rid of, something called the NES which is really frustrating because we only just got over a bout of red dot plague in the inventory that lasted over a year.

[Gix_Firebrand]

@Ryan_B_Thiesant

What has this got to do with forum pvp?

In other words, there is no such thing as forum PvP LOL.

[Ryan_B_Thiesant]

@CCP_Paragon

Flagging a post or a topic, regardless of how many times doesn’t mean we’ll automatically do something about it. It just means we’ll take a look at it.

As for players using multiple accounts to try to scheme threads or posts being locked or removed, that’s something I’ve suspected on a few occasions but when checked has never been the case, at least not in the use of alts. That doesn’t mean it’s never happened in the past but I’ve never seen it.

In regard to locking the topic because the replies are all super bad. This is something that’s of course not supposed to happen under normal circumstances and is only ever done if the post is beyond repair and we would have to delete almost every comment in a thread.

This is a dilemma and usually only ever happens when something blows up before we can step in. We of course try as much as possible to allow discourse, especially when it’s directed at CCP but sometimes it’s just not a good thing to remove almost every comment in a thread, regardless if they are violating the rules and pretend like it never happened. In that case I would rather lock it and leave it up for you to read and then you can make up your own mind.

I hope this answers the topic and I do like discussing these things in general so if there’s something else then fire away.

It just so happens that I have an example of a shut down topic.

https://imgur.com/a/CILMb8D

I made another topic, and one of the “players” alerted a moderator and that was closed too.

a thread going on long enough is not a reason alone to close. But together with toxic or offtopic posts, the moderator will close it.

What can be done?

[Arcturen_Sanguis]

Yes, there is a small gang of trolls here that get threads they don’t like closed.

@ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode doesnt care or supports it

[Gix_Firebrand]

@Ryan_B_Thiesant

I made another topic, and one of the “players” alerted a moderator and that was closed too.

a thread going on long enough is not a reason alone to close. But together with toxic or offtopic posts, the moderator will close it.

What can be done?

So in other words, they are following forum rules? Wut in the wut.

It sounds like you just can’t follow the rules bruv.

@Arcturen_Sanguis

Yes, there is a small gang of trolls here that get threads they don’t like closed.

You mean like you do all the time by posting zkills to try and shame peeps LOL.

Like how you’re doing right now by intentionally tagging an ISD and maligning him without proof?

You are the troll bruv

[Ryan_B_Thiesant]

@Gix_Firebrand

So in other words, they are following forum rules? Wut in the wut.

It sounds like you just can’t follow the rules bruv.

My post is to get the rules changed. The rule does not make sense. The topic should not be closed down.

The post may have to be. and those offtopic people should be removed from the head. However, that is extra work.

It seems that closing the thread, and banning the troublesome topic is easier. this may be a limitation of man-hours or a technical limitation. It can’t be a limitation of understanding the difference between a difficult topic or difficult people.

A difficult topic should have limitations on what people post on that thread. And if they cannot stick to the topic, they and their post should be removed. This is man intensive. so in that situation, the thread should be closed but the topic remain open.

It seems that difficult people cannot be banned from a thread. Does anyone respond to the “offtopic” flag?

Trollers know this “exploit” and use it to their advantage.

Rules can be changed. And I am asking for it to be changed because it is being exploited.

thanks.

[Gix_Firebrand]

@Ryan_B_Thiesant

Trollers know this “exploit” and use it to their advantage.

Rules can be changed. And I am asking for it to be changed because it is being exploited.

The ISD has shown great discernment recently.

My take? You getting salty cause your attempts to troll are getting shut down

[Jayce_Fitzpatrick]

Most threads seems to be locked for valid reasons.

Other than that, there exist three particular individuals who are unable to constructively contribute anything when discussing an opposing opinion. These threads usually gets locked in the end. Banning these particular regs will solve a lot of the hostility in the forums, since it’s quite obvious from the threads these individuals are usually the instigators of the following mudslinging.

That being said, the forums have been pretty quiet the last months. Maybe people just need to take some breaks away from the forums now and then.