I’m not a leader, I’m just a humble line member like @Brisc_Rubal
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Which is why I said file a complaint with Customer Support. And don’t be afraid to include a complaint about ISD allowing it. Just make sure you have good proof to link in the complaint.
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Edit:
I’ve filed complaints in the past when needed and will also do so in the future as well. I also know others who do the same.
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If you actually want to help players, start a corporation and teach them. Or look up ganks on the kill board (or watch over ganking hot spots) and personally reach out to gank victims and offer your advice (even if your advice is misguided and will end up hurting them in the long run, but that’s your right).
Posting a “grr gankers!” thread where you call them mentally-deficient, sociopaths, griefers, etc. under the guise of giving a supportive reach-around to gank victims after somebody just had their way with them is entirely self-serving.
But there are no permanent consequences for anything in this game, because it is a game, and not real life. What you want would be akin to making a person unable to fly a mining barge after they lost one three times, and your idea is just as bad as that one would be.
Also, most gankers are permanent outlaws, with the few that aren’t being 100% focused on operations against the most expensive targets (e.g. the 10+ billion ISK mission-running bling boats and overfilled freighters). So your idea wouldn’t just not protect the people who could arguably use some kind of assistance (e.g. the relatively new miners), but would also give a massive bonus to the players who deserve help the least (e.g. the career mission grinders, incursion farmers, null-sec anomaly farmers, and/or bot operators transporting massive quantities of loot to Jita, all of whom are responsible for the state of the economy, and for CCP implementing scarcity measures into the game).
So it sounds like your interests lie with the big money groups.
People are allowed to reference other people on public forums for whatever reason, as long as it doesn’t breach forum rules (e.g. insults, threats). This isn’t something out of which you can opt out just because you don’t like them, and don’t want them to talk about you. And in fact, everyone here (including myself) was pretty civil toward you, whereas the majority of your posts’ content in this thread has been straight-up insults.
What do you think will happen when support reads this thread and sees that? Support systems have various control tools, and they’ll probably mark you as “low priority” because you keep crying wolf all the time. You’re probably already on an administrative watch list from the time you threatened me with physical harm. You’ll just end up screwing yourself that way.
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Nope. There’s literally a warning pop-up when you jump in to Low-sec. It literally stops you and tells you that there is little to no response for “criminal actions” or something. Feel free to read it. Its also another form of CCP feeding gankers, because you could set up a suicide gank on the highsec side of a lowsec gate and pop people in the 3 seconds they are trying to read or get rid of the pop-up warning as it literally prevents you from jumping into low sec until you consent to no concord response.
In null, you don’t get a standings loss for killing other players. The person who looses the engagement doesn’t get kill rights.
I don’t get ganked. When I did, it was literally my fault. (MWD burning to gate on Autopilot).
Also, the OP’s advice about not engaging your gankers is crap.
Why? I got an excellent autolock hurricane fit out of being a recipient of a gank, as well as a lesson on the game mechanics that allowed the hurricane to lock and oneshot me. All because I convo’d my ganker.
Absolutely talk to them, once your pod is safe. There is a good chance you might learn something.
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Dude, I’ve been playing this game for over 13 years so save your breath.
Also I don’t care if there’s a warning or not, that doesn’t negate my statement.
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It does, because you have to consent to jump into low sec. If you click no, you remain in High-sec.
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Heh, your examples to counter my idea of implementing a 3 strike rule is laughable at best.
About my actions in this thread, if you don’t like it then stop posting your BS lies about me. Also you’re way far from being civil, what with you constantly posting snide little sarcastic innuendos in almost every single reply.
As for Support or ISD, go right ahead and direct them here so they can see the BS you posted which started this whole situation.
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Doesn’t matter…
Also post with your main instead of using a newly created alt that joined just 1 hr ago in an attempt to meta-game this topic.
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This is my main. I’m a new player!
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Feel free to check the birthdate on this account, as its as old as yours, I just didn’t participate in forums until I saw all the nonsense being posted.
I run many accounts, none are gankers. Its not a profitable use of my time.
I don’t have time for meta game bs.
Welcome to the forums morfiouse, you seem like a nice guy and we are glad to have you here! Cheers to you!
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Don’t have to check your age, your forum profile say’s enough to know you’re an alt character.
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Feel free to explain why, because I outlined its practical effects fairly well: the people currently getting killed by perpetual outlaws would continue to get killed, while the only ones experiencing a reprieve are those who are being targeted by large Talos/Tornado ganks that require on non-outlaw sec status for maneuvering, which would be the extremely wealthy and blinged-out players.
And that’s the thing: you never do. You never provide content. Any time someone challenges you, you just stomp your foot and say “BS” or something of that nature. You presented an idea; what should follow is an explanation of the issues it’s trying to solve, its expected effects, an evaluation of potential problems that can come from its implementation, and their solution.
I never said that I don’t like it. And yes, people, including me, were civil to you. “Sarcastic innuendos” (where are those in this thread again?) are civil in a discourse between rivals. Outright cussing isn’t, but it doesn’t affect me so I don’t care. If you have difficulty controlling your emotions, that’s something you should work on, and in the meantime, avoiding internet forums might be a good idea.
Nah, I don’t engage in those petty games. That’s the prerogative of Epeen, Dracvlad, and you, the three people who have explicitly mentioned that most of my posting on these forums is being reported and/or sent to support. Whether or not that’s actually true I have no idea, but since I’ve yet to be hit with any sort of moderation aside from having some of my posts disappear during thread cleanings, it doesn’t really matter to me.
Loose like a goose.
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I can only assume that CCP deliberately designed the rules of Highsec in such a way that it is possible to regain security status. So DeMichael’s idea is to change the design that CCP has implemented, but I don’t imagine they will do that.
It’s like they actually want people to get ganked. Sometimes, I think, it’s almost like that this is the game - like the whole point is to fly around ganking miners.
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Tags were added in the first “Crimewatch” in 2012 in order to balance out pretty significant nerfs to ganking/buffs to CONCORD, increases in war costs, and to push people into low-sec. The intended design methodology was to essentially get gankers to subsidize victims by having the victims sell the very things that gankers need in order to continue ganking.
What actually happened was that ganking turned into an outlaw-only endeavor with only a select few people using those tags for the purposes of being able to field quick-response BC gank fleets to hit high-value targets. That’s more or less why the tags are so cheap - even though they’re very rare, almost nobody uses them.
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Will the three strikes rule be applied retroactively, like I didn’t know and I ganked like eight thousand miners when I was a noob, but when they apply it will those count against me, or will I still get three free ganks?
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I love the tags. I can live in lowsec, but bribe Concord when I want to do things like the Liberation Day tour.
Not every mechanic is just about gankers.
This right here is your laughable example because it’s not even close to what I was talking about.
No they’re not permanent. They can easily raise their security status and continue their ganking free and clear.
See this is where you go off the tracks once again. Get this through your head, I’m not trying to protect anybody, what I’d like to see is consequences for actions taken in this game to actually be meaningful.
Heh, if you go around posting outright lies about another player you’ll eventually be called out on it by CCP, especially if it adversely affects that players ability to play the game as they normally would.
Ant that’s why I don’t like interacting with you. I’m not here to provide you with content nor waste my time scrolling through a thread to post a bunch of quotes in some BS debate when you’ve already edited your replies multiple times. Engaging with you here is an exercise in futility and quite honestly, a complete waste of time when I could be in-game running event sites or working on submissions for the Liberation Day Propaganda contest.
I’ve already spent way to much time in this thread and only came here because of blatant lies being posted about me. That was resolved and I said I was done yet you and your cohorts keep dragging me back, are you people seriously that bored? Maybe try spending less time here in the forums with your meta-game alts and do more playing of the game.
I don’t care what the thread topic is about. What I care about is lies being spread about me here in the forums. Now that’s it, I’m done, you win, enough already.
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Is it against the EULA to lie?
(asking for a friend)
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…and this is why we shoot them.
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