She’s simply mad they succeeded where Templis failed…
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What Kala said you stiff-necked, pimple-faced, asexual little git.
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Hey, no shaming asexuals, Ana. They don’t deserve that sort of negative association.
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Let’s please keep it civil.
One can disagree – and disagree with proof! – without descending to insults.
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Something you yourself need to to learn before asking that others.
Ahh, here it goes!
A typical minmatar representative.
You see, dear readers, this is the kind of people we shall fight against, in word and action. Lets cleanse our cluster from this.
I also see you ignoring my question, Diana.
There was no bloodshed involved in this by U’K. This was a civilized business transaction. The only violent attacks were conducted against Amarr loyalists by Amarr loyalists.
What injustice do you claim U’K committed here? Or, if the clarification demonstrates that there were factors you were not aware of (which happens, there’s no malice or dishonor in being wrong), will you admit to being wrong about U’K’s part in this, and offer them an apology for your accusations about this station transfer?
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I’ve replied already to two peoples in a row in this thread, taking two most pressing issues to tackle and stopped after that to prevent monopolizing conversation and let others speak their point.
But fine, if you insist on getting answers, I will provide.
I’ve taken my judgements from the words of the U’K representative himself:
which means, technically, that it was a violent, not civilized business transaction. However, maybe that’s what Minmatars consider “civilized business”, certainly not what Caldari. And, excuse me, being all my life raised as Caldari, not Minmatar, I have point of view of Caldari, not Minmatar.
Anyway, if you don’t agree with this assessment or the method used to occupy the station, I’d recommend arguing it with Mr. Khalmer, not me.
Maybe. But consider this - I treat to believe them more, since they speak about their own operation and actions.
Yes, there is no dishonor in being wrong, and I might be wrong and I can accept this. I’ll just note one more time that I have made my judgement based on Mr. Khalmer’s words, this wasn’t just my pure assumption or groundless accusation.
And I am not going to run to Pandemic Legion or Brave Newbies to pester them with questions about what happened in there. I repeat, discuss it with Mr. Khalmer, not me.
I’ll accept whatever you two will agree on, in regards of this issue. If you won’t, I’ll just stick to my opinion.
Yes, Diana, they used Entosis links. That’s non-violent. They don’t kill people. So there’s no ‘dancing and yelling over dead bodies’. And they’d need to do those entosis ‘skirmishes’ regardless of whether or not a deal was made. The only other way to do the transfer would have been to give the station to a corp in Brave, then transfer that corp to U’K, and handover the station that way… and let’s face it, nobody trusts one another enough to do that.
As for what Red said… did you miss this?
Khaprice is also U’K. So there you have it, from them.
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I think I’ll just wait for the official statement that “No Imperials/Amarr/Faithful were killed or harmed that day”
I hope you`ll forgive me if I’m curious about what excuse you’ll use to avoid it if that happens.
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I don’t need excuses. I gave my word and you can expect me to follow it. Don’t forget, you are speaking with Strike Commander.
I believe I speak for the majority of Minmatar when I say we care neither for the amount of Amarr that may or may not have been harmed, nor your opinion of us for said harm being caused… much in the same vein as you don’t care about our opinion of your actions against the Gallente. (We don’t by the way)
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And I believe there were several misconceptions that forced you to write the reply, which I’ll try to cover now.
First of all, I do care for the amount of Federals I’ve harmed. Well, I probably could have said Gallenteans, but considering amount of brickheads that are about to jump to blame me in “racism” (and however stupid that might be, it is still quite distracting), I’ll just state openly, that I care about deaths of only those, who wear Federal uniform. And why? Simply because I still follow my formula: “All enemies of the State shall die.”
Second, I feel no shame in overdoing my job, nor in failing to killing anything (things happen~) - and if needed I easily speak about number of people I killed or hasn’t killed (yet). I don’t understand why some peoples make a drama out of this. It is either happened or not, we can’t change it already. Just state facts as they are.
And third: yes, I do despise tribals as I despise federals. And I am quite unhappy with the thought they could have killed our allies - but I really prefer to see those, who can capture station in a honorable combat than in coward trading business with enemy. That’s just revolting and disgusting to think about.
And as a summary: Arrendis tried to prove me Tribals are worse than I do believe. I made a statement and was proving why I made it. I was only looking for truth by standing on my words, not as a way to insult tribals more - and I will bring apologies if I indeed made a mistake - because for me, officer with unsullied honor, making such mistakes is unacceptable. Oh, and yes, I still believe I didn’t make a mistake in my assumption. That’s all.
Oh, and you’re more than welcome to point at any factual mistakes if I did any. After all, I am a human, not a machine.
Diana, if Ushra’Khan has no quarrel with Brave, what makes that ‘coward trading business with enemy’?
Do you think the State is cowardly for engaging in trade with the Federation? Because it does. The mere existence of Quafe as a multi-national corporation, with both Caldari and Federal charter, demonstrates that.
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Just. Stop. Engaging. Her.
I know it’s hard. She is a master baiter. But just stop. And maybe she’ll go away.
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Explain the “Liberation” then.
The problem is that the people behind certain bad actors on the IGS - the aforementioned of course, but also Nauplius, the Blood Raider blonde squad, etc. - have been told on repeated occasions that their behaviour is neither acceptable nor welcome, and have had it explained in great detail. It’s gotten them banned from certain capsuleer-run channels, in point of fact. But as long as the authorities refuse to show some spine and actually moderate their forum, they will continue to derail every single thread.
At this point, to interact with the forum IS to interact with its bad actors.
That’s why so many good people have left the cluster. That’s why I repeatedly take long breaks from it. Because it’s exhausting trying to have a conversation when there are people with a mental age of 5 constantly screaming for attention.
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If I may, the station was once under U’K control then CVA came and took it.
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And while I tend to avoid interacting with the said bad actors unless they get my direct, I’ll still reply to this. Just because you were ranting about Nauplius where he didn’t belong and disrupting the conversation I was participating in, to derailing it into nowhere (I hope you won’t do it in every single thread as you noted), it was just rude and childish.
If you really want for good people to stop leaving the cluster, then please take longer breaks, because your derailing and screams for attention is exactly what you are ranting about.
Anyway, lets not allow this well known clown to derail us too much. Time to return to the topic:
That they have built in CVA space in order to attack their space. Did I get that correctly, Ms. Vess?