Why are you trying to target 5 rocks at a time?
That’s inefficient mining.
Also you have 7 locks! 7!
You can target 5 rocks, and 2 rats, if 7 is really too low, fit a module to increase your number of locks, they exist.
Once every 15 minutes locking a few targets is not micromanaging.
Why are you editing hour old posts to reply.
And boo hoo, every 5 minutes still is not micromanaging. Micromanaging is a lot more constant than that.
What mining drones, you have combat drones out in order to kill the rats right now remember…
idk but i have rats like every 5 minutes in my 0.5 belts
I need to target them to order my miners to mine them. then i have time to afk. this afk timeframe is then shortened by the minute or so i would have to deal with rats due to uber long target locks. Its just an annoyance i dont understand why i would have to deal with. Again, also its not only about orcas.
Does my fit affect rat spawn timers?
…Honestly i never tried to ignore rats for hours on end, maybe i should. But i have seen them burning through my passive regen in a very solid fit. Idk if that stops at a certain amount of shield but hay lets give it a try.
So yeah, i have to double check if the orca causa is closed, still my displeasure with this change is not caused by affect on orcas only.
Also, honest question: if you ignore rats, will more of them spawn and do they stack up? or is it only 1 spawn forever?
Here are my ACTUAL incoming DPS numbers for roughly the last 8 hours.
Are you telling me your Orca cannot handle an average of 1.6 damage per second? Peak of 5 damage per second.
As i said i never tried to ignore rats for 8 hours. And even if you can ignore rats because they dont spawn stack its not all about orcas.
But hay at least you care and stopped calling me an immature child with an half functioning brain and actually engange in a discussion like a grown up…see? it works wonders.
See, the problem there is that you actually implied that belt rats pose a threat to Orcas when you claimed:
With you trying to imply that this Drone Aggression change is bad because it could even cause Orcas (with 300k ehp+) to die from rats, which is a terrible idea that is also objectively wrong.
Now you’re desperately trying to back pedal after getting called out on it with actual numbers.
Yes from all my observations their damage adds up. Thats why i never even tried to ignore them for 8 hours. But if your sure that passive shield regen makes it so u can ignore them forever and their spawns dont stack up…and in general u can just entirely ignore belt rats in an orca cuz nothing will ever happen…great, i learned something.
I would have to double check since i doubt your argueing over the cause but only to for whatever reason to discredit me but hey if ur right then great the orca causa is closed.
I still dislike the change for the other reasons i gave above tho.
So if you admit this, then what were you trying to say when you said:
this?
Are you suggesting that you have new rats spawning “like every 5 minutes” in your belts and stacking? Or were you already aware that once rats spawn, new ones don’t spawn “like every 5 minutes” and were intentionally trying to argue a position you knew was false?
Here’s a fact: the issue is closed. Glad you could finally admit it without resorting to bs claims that aren’t backed up with any evidence.
So you’re just crying like a baby because you can’t AFK, cool. That’s part of the intended change. Good to know.
What you faced might have been special diamond rat NPCs, that spawn in a system with a pirate forward operating base.
Those are dangerous even for an Orca, so be sure to check your agency window to see if there’s a pirate FOB in your system, under the Encounters tab.
The average belt rats can’t damage a properly tanked procurer enough, so an Orca is even less of an issue.
If you never touch them, they will stick around and keep trying to kill you to no avail, until they get bored and warp out, which usually happens during the time you warp away to drop off the ore at a station.
No i am used to clear my belt rats whenever i target new rocks. By drag and dropping out a hobgoblin. Not by untargetting my rocks to drag out my hobgoblin to then wait for my target lock timers to then press engage inbefore waiting for the individual rats to die to repeat 3 or 4 times…to only than target my rocks again.
So yes, i have new rats spawning like ( i dont know exactly i didnt timestamped it) every 5 minutes or something. Because my auto agression drone clears them easy. And my question was: wether or not rat spawns DO stack up like if i ignore one spawn does another come on top of it?
I think i layed out my problem enough by now. It makes mining, an underpayed, very boring activity which allready suffers from the heaviest botting competition in the game even more tedious, thus even more attractive to cheat.
Besides mining it also affects other areas of the game where idk wtf the problem is with, especially for non multiboxers and especially for newer players.
Again i am all for nerfing multiboxers, cheaters and lowering the total amount of isk in the game.
I do think however nerfing all the drones across the board is a very cheap approach.
No, your explanation is wrong, doesn’t reflect reality, and once rats are attacking you, you can’t simply drag out a hobgoblin to auto attack them anyway, so you clearly either are responding as soon as they spawn, in which case you aren’t afk so why mine in such an inefficient way, or you are already manual targetting them.
Drones have not been nerfed across the board, one specific ability that targets afk gameplay has been nerfed, a type of gameplay you are SPECIFICALLY admitting to, therefore you are the target group here, but even in your case it doesn’t impact you like you claim it does.
sometimes i do, sometimes i dont, its one click and my hob takes care and i can do other stuff.
i barely ever target belt rats. yes true i noticed sometimes they wont for whatever reason, i than have to press target once on one of them. thats one additional click in rare circumstances. thats not the same as untargetting, retargetting, press engange, waiting for them to die, repeat.
U know thats exactly the unnecessary annoyance and difference in walking past ur screen pressing a few buttons or sitting down like a minute.
as allready quoted above and explained by way more experienced players than me, it does in all sort of active playstyles and not only afk.
No. i said i will loose dps in my gila and i will now have to micro manage my combat drones when the only thing is i wanna do is afk mine.
And yes i will loose DPS in my gila every second i wait for new target locks, missmanage my drones or simply lag or
or
or all the other scenarios people have gone through in this thread
this
has nothing to do with “beeing boss” but yes, i said that in my original post about the matter
