over the course of trying to learn to defend against bumping. I have 5 Accounts going. 1 Orca, 2-3 Mining ships and 1-2 Large ships (Destroyer-Battleship depending) tring to get between the bumpers and my orca. So I do have Combat Ships Present
Again with the speed differentiating. An Orca should not cause a PvP reaction because it should not normally be going fast enough to be a bumper.
there were similar calls , to open players to pvp , when mining the moon rocks another corp had created . these corps called the ore ātheirsā and wanted a mechanic to be able to protect it .
and , universally , they argued for making the ooc miners āsuspectā . NEVER did they ask for limited engagement for the player or corp . they wanted other players to take advantage of the suspect timer , and kill the ooc miners for them .
so , i ask you , since you have specifically not mentioned what type of PVP you want ā¦
would you argue for your Orca , when bumped , to get a flag to the bumper ? what would you do if so ? you canāt mine while you have an active limited engagement ā¦
so the bumper could come back in a ship that can kill your orca . or warp off while youāre in a pvp fitted ship and wait out the timer and come back and bump you again .
OR ā¦ you want the bumper flagged suspect . so others can fight your battles for you? thatās what i thought . 
So you will engage one bumper at a time (as they are suspect for 15 minutes each you can do this assuming they donāt warp out) and try killing them off one by one as many you can is your plan then?
Please clarify what you mean with āspeed differentiatingā.
When is a bump fast enough to cause suspect status and when is the bump OK?
Also, you havenāt answered what the miners will do once the bumpers become suspect.
you know the speed of a regular mining ship and a bumper.
No because once you engaged one, you would be engaged in PvP and the others could now join right in
He would fight himself.
I would Assume mining ships wouldnāt do anything. But as I said. I and others have been fielding combat type ships to try to counter
Thatās not how suspect flag works. Suspect can be shot at by anyone and until they do so the suspect can not shoot back. It is a limited engagement timer that is created when you shoot a suspect (or anyone else) that also enables it to shoot back at the non-suspect.
Edit: Official related infoā¦
Please clarify what you mean with āspeed differentiatingā.
I want to see some clear rules that people can design their bumping ships for.
thanks for clarifying that for him , lets see if he answers .
does he want LE between the bumped and bumper , or suspect for the bumper so others can fight for himā¦?
*edit . could extend the flag to his whole corp , the way the old stealing mechanic worked ā¦
Absolute Horseapples āitās not hard to code thisā.
Yes it is.
A simple physics fart, or a bit of lag, is enough to make bumps recur and therefore trip your āintentionalā detector.
Tell you what, you go write the code and show us it yeah?
Donāt use ChatGPT, weāll know.
that is exactly what I said. the bumpers would be flagged, I would engage and thus I should get flagged for PvP as well so all the other Bumpers could engage me
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Thatās good. Just note the fact you as non-suspect donāt have to fight all of them at once, only if you wish to, because as long as you donāt shoot the suspect it can not shoot back at you.
again if you are a bumper, you very well much know the difference between a regular ship speed and a ship fitted out for bumping. dont act like you dont. a simple lag spike is not going to erk that.
so you do want suspect so other people can fight your battles , instead of your corp fighting the bumpers ?
suspect or LE ?
waiting ā¦
So if Iām flying a regular blingy PvE combat ship with MWD active and someone parks their ship in front of me I get a suspect timer?
Your rule is going to get a lot of people real mad.
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I dont believe in letting others fight my battles for me. I came on to discuss this because I want to have the chance to PvP fight it out to defend myself. and if I lose thats my fault
so you would like the mechanic changed so the bumper is flagged to your corp only ?
not suspect .
itās a big difference and would clearly show your intentions .
and iāve asked you several times and you refuse to answer ā¦
this really only matters in High Sec. So if you are flying around with your 2k m/s engine running not paying attention to what you are doingā¦you deserve it. but again you are trying to overthink it