Version 19.05 - General Feedback

Not sure whether it’s bug or not since I haven’t used agency much before the patch.

If it does not look like an expected behavior, report it.

Most functions in Agency ignores route settings, Agent Finder, Anomalies, Signatures … etc. It’s been like that forever, so it’s not just this patch. More as WAI, but of course, could use QOL fix on it.

Folks, it doesn’t look like that many of you realize that CCP is a private company.
And as such its main purpose is TO MAKE GOD DAMN MONEY
i dont think it is any where near smart to complain that a business is trying to make money by selling something, this is how they survive, this is how they make it possible to deliver value.

ON THE OTHER HAND
customers have every right to be upset when services/goods delivered not worth the money charged.

When people sound like “OH they try to sell more plex”, or “Oh CCP is money grabbing” you sound very very silly ( if not stupid )
Hell yeah, they want to make money, and need to make money to continue the business, to continue support and develop Eve.

HOWEVER !!!
When they do charge the money and deliver crappy updates, ruin existing gameplay instead of improving it, then it gets upsetting.

They dont have to listen to crying player base, but then player base will vote with their dollars and legs. Then even those that stay will suffer because Eve becomes less popular and less populated. Eventually this may lead to point of no return when the game may not be salvageable.
It is up to those evil people of CCP :slight_smile: to realize mistakes they make and correct them fast.
Better yet to learn from past mistakes and try not to make new ones.

PS
Online participation lately is declining at alarming rate.

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They have done a good job of making every play style in Eve a lot worse with a rapid succession of changes. All of the mining shortages, followed by very aggressive industry changes, then messing with nullification, then cloaks. Games are supposed to be fun. Counting on an OCD playerbase to adapt and overcome against anything CCP can brainstorm - that might not be a successful approach.

I guess they haven’t messed up mission running yet.

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For now but I’m that’s still to come. Salami slices…

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Mission running for the most part is very boring, repetitive grind, and been boring for many many years ( some burners are fun however ). It needs major improvement.
But i have no doubt some “talent” at CCP can make it worse…

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Ugh, well, CCP quality.

You keep giving them ideas. :stuck_out_tongue:

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Always has been

Revert the changes to the Probe Scanner window or let us choose to dock the signature window to either side of the scanner window.

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I’m thinking you would have been useful in the late thirty’s to someone nasty. “We make the decisions so we are right”. Are you out of your mind?

Except I never said they’re right. I said they set the definitions.

It’s like religion: God is good, right? Like, literally defines goodness. Goodness is ‘godliness’. Everything God orders people to do is good, because it’s God’s Will.

Like, you know, putting every man, woman, and child in Jericho to the sword for the crime of… living there. Yay genocide?

You can disagree with the action. You can say it’s wrong. ■■■■ knows I think it’d be wrong. But within the framework of that faith, at that time, that… was good.

Acknowledging that a group of people who pretty frequently make boneheaded moves set the terms and conditions doesn’t mean you don’t think they were boneheaded. Just that you recognize that the argument isn’t one that can be won based on the framework they define.

Ok, holy cow, I guess I completely misread what you were saying and how you meant it.
I think I see what you are getting at with the post I responded to now and will keep reading up.
In the meantime, I do believe I stand corrected.

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I think the decloak should at least be active. It’s kinda ironic how something designed to combat AFK is used AFK. Couldn’t it be an objective or something, where the decloaker needs to stay near it like an ESS for 1 minute and people would send some of their cloaky ships there to stop the decloaking? (also suspect for decloaking people)

Yeah I know you still have to combat scan but there would be no killmails and no way to actually stop the decloak.

Also crank it up to 100% and have no safe time. This way it will make carebears less alert and only pay attention during the scans, and hopefully give hunters more skill based hunting and more offtime from information regarding the last scan time.

You clearly haven’t ever black ops hunted. (or you’re just really lucky and find targets every five minutes)

Don’t. Owning a super should be the equivalent of literally owning a skyscraper or something.

But EVE has its own lore. It’s like if CONCORD suddenly started shooting civilian ships and you had to choose a side. You can rationalize it, and they can rule it into their framework, but it’s not a boneheaded move, it is a contradiction.

Using your analogy, the framework of “GOD IS GOOD” is valid, but if the bible says the following 3 things:

  1. God is good
  2. Murder of innocents is bad
  3. God just murdered an innocent

It is a contradiction rather than a boneheaded move. I am not saying God should not murder an innocent, but one of the three things above must be wrong. I am not saying that cloaking disruption should be suspect, but either cloaking disruption is suspect, or warp disruption is not suspect.

(or maybe the citizens of New Eden treat warping as a basic ship right but not cloaking, totally possible, but still, making sense lorewise still doesn’t make sense gamewise.)

It does. 10th Plague. Hell, all of them. After all, Moses approaches Pharaoh, his adoptive brother, and God hardens Pharaoh’s heart. God did that. God made Pharaoh be stubborn so he could show off.

Or kids make fun of a priest’s bald head, so God sends a bear to kill them.

Old Testament’s full of ‘God kills people just to demonstrate he can’.

And yet… that is not the case.

Frequently, neither of these is possible.

you forgot the ESS DBS BS
i unsubbed 5 Myrmidon bait alts because of that - used to lose about 30 Myrmidons per month, also killing a lot of hunters in return.

No longer a financially viable play style
No content for hunters
No fights for me
F*ck CCP

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thank god the week is over and you will turn off the slow mode today. :ok_hand:

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I think the whole de-cloak/re-cloak within 15mins because of an observatory is way over complicated.

Why didn’t CCP just add fuel for cloaking modules (maybe add an extra bay for ships designed to be covert) - Then to give the new “observatories” purpose have them increase cloak fuel consumption if active in a system (maybe have them consume cap charges as well)

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Because the system they chose creates a more active playstyle where the defenders also have to put in effort. That means that cloaking is not a problem in generic systems and only marginally so in defended systems.

It also means that scouting is becoming less of an alt activity and more an actual playstyle. Where the only ones affected are the lazy, the alts and the bots. Sounds great to me.

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