Version 19.08 - General Feedback

the ship icons were changed to be too damn bright. also fix the ogre icon please

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Yeah, the grossly over-exposed icons are bizarre…

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I don’t know if you care at all, but just a heads up CCP I hate the new layout so much that it’s literally making me quit the game. I’ve deactivated one account (Mirax Horne) and will be deactivating this one as well. It’s so poorly designed and so completely unneeded, combined with there being no option to use the old version, that this one change alone has convinced me that you no longer care about improving the game. Maybe I’ll come back next year to see if you’ve fixed this travesty.

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I think the sorting of the skills in the list needs to be fixed as well. They are alpha order but going down the whole column instead of across right to left, so it makes things look just wrong.

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The order should be across:
Row 1: Armored command → Armored command specialist
ROw 2: Command burst specialist → Fleet command
Etc…

Not the awful order it is.

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This order causes Gallente to be half at the bottom of the long column with Amarr, and half right next to Amarr at the very top, rather than the racial skills being grouped together like one would expect.

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I have found another bug in the new character window/portrait.

CCP support told me to use Ctrl+Shift+F9 to switch to “UI-only” mode because it was supposed to switch off the portrait… but guess what…

It switches off station interior, spaceships etc, all perfectly correctly… but the character portrait is NOT switched off! And when it starts drawing the portrait my game still crashes.

I am hoping the Ctrl+Shift+F9 thing is a bug and will be fixed so that the portrait is also hidden by it.

But if it is not a bug it will sadly mean that someone at CCP thinks the portrait must NEVER be allowed to be hidden and is more important than spaceships!!! Really!!? Why do they think we are playing Eve? Have they lost complete sight of what the core focus of the game is?

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Wonder if ccp going to revert it back

Oh wait…they will never do that

Oh and, in pochven, triglavian are still shooting each other off and other friendly pilot even tho ccp said that they “fix it”

I do them in a tristan or any scan frigate i have at hand. key is drones for me. go out of range of missile tower, use free repair module from 7/10 military career agent - easy

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I used the Network Diagnostics regularly before playing. Typical CCP… we don’t hear :poop: from them one way or the other.

Why do I have to add a skill to my skill queue to see how long it would take to train it? Why can I not get that information when I hover the skill, like I could before?

Where can I see how much SP I already have trained in a skill? How many SP’s / min am I currently training?? I cannot see this anywhere, I used to see this when I hover a skill previously.

Also the useless 3d character must be removable (resource/space hog)!! Put it in the character info so people can see it there (if they want).

Hate this new “improvement” (LOL) This is a step backwards, a bad joke, a dysfunctional eyesore. They also removed the Network Diagnostics from the launcher!!! :face_with_symbols_over_mouth: Both of these are NOT!!! in any way improvements.

I would venture to guess that at least 75% of players don’t like the changes.

--------------------------------------The silence from CCP is deafening---------------------------------

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Your guess is actually very close. When I looked at the voting poll someone linked (somewhere in this long thread) it was 77% who did not like it, and 15% who liked it.

Let me guess :slight_smile: that %15 percent :
1 . either not aware and not look at carefull,
2. They dont know the “old” one so no insight to compare one so they like it
3. They dont give ■■■■ to “functionality “ if it looks nice and shiny “ they like it “ apereance > function
5. This one was worthy to cencor i guess for community …( now you just sit and guess what it could be :rofl: )

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I fail to see what the new AIR station environment is briging to the NPE (or to anything else): it’s completely bloated with blinky stuff, makes my FPS drop from slightly over 22 to around 10… and the station itself contains no particular service (esp. ones you’d be looking for with a new toon, like agents).

I don’t get the “new NPE content” either. Created a new alt to test it out, and it just points me towards buying a skillbook… just to unlock more “basic skill plans”… I don’t really see how that would add up to “content driven NPE” or whatever buzzword I saw flying in the announcement :thinking:

I tried all that for less than 15 minutes before finding another home station for that toon. Had I been a new player, I believe I’d have left the game after ~1h.

As per the “please give us an option to revert back to the previous UI”, I’d like to point out that game options still provide a “use the new starmap” tick box to this day. I started playing around 2010 and I’m not sure I ever saw the “old starmap” UI. Easing players into UI changes was once considered a valid concept…

Forcing the 3D view of the toon in the char window also incurs an FPS drop. I used to spend some time in the skill queue and standings windows… now those two are a drag, I avoid them as much as I can.

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its a shame that this Masterpiece of BS made it into the game. are all devs of eve are this blind?

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Hey there. The in-launcher network diagnostics that you’re speaking of were obsolete and the CS team has replaced it with a tool that provides more information. If you, or anyone, suspect that you have a network related issue I encourage you to file a support ticket and the team will direct you to the new tool.

Cheers!

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Hello, just wanted to direct you to the known issues thread where the above concerns have been listed and are currently being worked on :slight_smile:

I mean, most of them didn’t need to ‘become’ anything. :smirk:

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The known issues thread doesn’t make mention of the ridiculous gap, which is comically bad as you’re resolution increases, here’s the gap at 4k:

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@CCP_Swift how is it such an obvious issue raised by many players has not yet been noticed by CCP? Are you forwarding on the issues raised by players? Has there been a miscom somewhere for it to be missing from the Known Issues thread? Or, worse, is it actually accepted that the gap is an intentional design shudder

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Reminder that the new skill UI is bad, you it has less features than the previous UI and additional ones i didn’t ask for.

Missing Features - the filters for skills, skills you have pre-reqs for filtering off level 5s etc, the ability to see how many skillpoints are in a trained skill.

UI layout is hot garbage, unacceptable change, poor design, bulky, doesn’t mix well with the existing UI, if there is some grand plan to slowly rebuild the UI piecemeal then have each portion of it go through an experimental phase so its not shoved in the game as an unfinished poorly polished product, this is such a detriment to the integrity of the game and the lack of an immediate rollback of this UI speaks volumes about the management at CCP and any hopes for future quality assurance,

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They aren’t interested at “feedback”, they would have addressed it already otherwise. They ask for “feedback” in hopes of fishing points for confirmation bias from brownnosers who think change for the sake of change is good, who don’t know any better.

Also, that massive eyesore of a gap is reserved for ads. Pearl Abyss wants to push more BUY PLEX ONLY 4,99!

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