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It was disappointing to hear CCP went with the soft cap approach to prevent plex blobbing instead of a hard cap.

The sandbox purists will disagree with me here, and that’s OK, but one thing that really sucks in this game is getting blobbed. You have no chance to win or have any meaningful engagement if the enemy fleet is N+10 or more larger than you, all other things being equal.

Now, when I was a teenager, I had hours every day to spend in a fleet looking for a fight and getting blobbed at the end of it. But I’m an adult with a job now and the reason both myself and others I know who used to play this game IRL no longer play it is that it’s difficult to justify the time investment in trying to find the best part of this game (PVP) without instantly getting deleted by 50 people, when I could play another game that, frankly, respects my time more.

The response that “well, most of the people who play this game ARE adults with jobs, who are significantly older than you, Goodnight Vienna” is an example of survivorship bias.

This is not the case for PVE which can be done anytime with little to no risk, but most of the PVE in this game is boring as hell.

Now, in the rest of the game, including highsec, lowsec, wormholes, and nullsec, being blobbed is a normal thing that happens to all small fleets and that’s fine, but it would be nice if there was at least one way (Proving Grounds doesn’t count) to get fair fights and learn PVP without being blobbed.

In my experience the best and most fun fights in this game are 5 v 5 or less, not 300 v 300 where all you do is anchor on the FC, press F1, and broadcast for repairs. Many players like that, but I find it super boring! No independent decision making allowed!

If at least some of the plexes were hard capped, or even just the small 5-player-per-faction instances, that would be a really big improvement and encourage meaningful PVP, and will also result in more players to fight in space, more demand for modules and ships which means more miners to kill and overall a healthier ingame economy. By all means, still have soft capped plexes! But it would be nice to have the option.

Sure, take this opinion of someone who doesn’t even play anymore for what it is: worthless trash. But please at least consider the potential benefits!

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I dont see any changes

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The now previous preview window was just fine. Now we have this new preview garbage.
From small, compact mode by default, like most people like, we now have these big space wasting icons, requiring more and more mouse scrolling. And of course, no compact mode available as option.

Why do we always have to ask for compact mode everytime you come up with a new stupidly big window UI ? Why are you doubling down on that everytime ?

After seeing a discussion in Perimeter from a psychopath ganker who just want to see new players’ tears, I’m starting to think you guys may love to see forum complaints on updated UI. Could be a thing.

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Hi CCP. First. Love the new update. Good work.

We have some minor issues we want to rely to you. We started seeing alot of oposing faction alts,
deliberatly siphoning lp from sites. They are using this tactic to lower lp rewards for actual fw players. We have no counter to it. If we shoot them, we get standings issues. Resulting in as you know, corporation risking removal from fw. We would very much like to be able to do something about this, without the way standings are atm.
A way to counter this, would be to have the sites give faction standings, or switch the standings loss to the faction warfare corp.

Second, we noticed alot of nvy-1 sites. We dont want them gone, but it would be nice if there were more navy-5 sites. :slight_smile:

o7

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Hey @CCP_Paragon…

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Can we turn off the station animations and max the zoom. I get motion sickness and claustrophobia from this update :frowning: can you guys please preview or warn players before adding something like this it could cause seizures or something!

Update: If you can just make the zoom fixed and way farther out it would be great the animations look cool and all but man its super claustrophobic when you’re on a frigate or something even at max zoom.

Update 2: Getting 40FPS on max settings (Inside station) on a 5700XT from the previous 270FPS can we get some optimizations please.

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Right? Like what they did was “Shipest”, not “Raciest” because of ship type they should have only one dock. And capital ship spin with the new capital docking is gone. Just use the subcap docking.

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The Paragon missions being limited to one per day is bad enough, but having that be an actual 24 hour period is even more annoying. Reset it at downtime

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How slow people ask? 10-15 seconds (doesn’t seem entirely consistent)…

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@CCP_Paragon where exactly are the faction dread BPCs available? the LP store in Jita does not have the phoenix navy issue BPC available, and all the patch notes say is “available in their respective LP stores”

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In Faction Warfare LP stores only

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Welcome in EVE where we build everything upside down.

  • The vapor that goes down in a gravity-free environment :pinched_fingers:

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What have you done arround the VSYNC!

  • I was playing EVE without VSYNC with 2-3ms latency and no limit to FPS
  • Now if I turn ON VSYNC , Im still arround 15ms of latency
  • With VSYNC off , FPS seem to be caped at 60FPS, Im still arround 15ms latency!

With VSYNC off I was playing with 2-3ms latency before patching and no limit to FPS!

Please rollback to setting option we had BEFORE you put that useless VSYNC LATENCY mode.

Playing with 15ms is ugly, Im able to play EVE online , REMOTETLY from work with 30-40ms.

  • COME ON!

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OH wait that’s actually just in DOCK mode, if I undock FPS goes up by 4x and latency strikes down by 5-6x , a HUGE MEGALUL , no quality patching as expected.

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This update is such a bunch of fluff, you get the impression that the rationale is that change is a quality in itself - look how much you get for your now obscenely priced sub.

A fine example is the corporate wallet where the buttons to deposit/withdraw have been moved to the bottom of the window… WHY?

The << DOCKING >> graphic… WHY? It is completely uncalled for, and what’s the deal with it? It pops up on a 3rd person view of the ship - so where does this piece of flashing ship system styled graphic origin from? It is ship interface? No. Is it floating in space outside the station? No. So what is it? Come on, CCP.

Is it me or has the color saturation increased overall? To make it more K-POP?

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Not only skin list is HUGELY oversized( why?!) but it’s also impossible to resize its width, so preview window is actually less than the list( at this window size) :face_vomiting:

Stop this “less info density” madness - NO ONE WANTS THIS!
Is it the same guy who forced us to use monochromic ui? Fire him already and bring us back colors and really compact and informative ui.

P.S. Yes, i’m also boasting by my 19b skin :sunglasses:

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Loving almost every change with this update!

HOWEVER – can we please get an option to disable some of the new docking sounds/animations/UI elements? The new hangar is pretty, but the sound effects on docking are EAR SPLITTING and the UI overlay is obstructive. That’s been my only complaint so far.

Thank you for all your hard work!

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Some nice ships and changes (except new skin menu, its horrible), good to see hac’s becoming more close range

but overall game design baffles me a little…

  • changes that make 0.0 more dangerous than wormholes (blackout)
  • reverted after 30% player drop
  • changes that make 0.0 much safer (bubble immunity for lots of ships)
  • changes that make high-sec less safe (for both abyss runners and gankers)
    imo hs and 0.0 becoming more similar to each other is a bad thing, but so are blind, wild adjustments

Last couple updates and this expansion didn’t fix stuff that was messed up during wwb2 (several updates that were ranging from “ok” to “terrible”)… did CCP give up on bringing old players and their alts back and focuses now solely on attracting new players?
How is that strategy working? XDD

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Undock for fun, The DOCK mode take more ressources then the inspace!

  • Your 40FPS dock should go over 140FPS once you undock , HUGE LUL!
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thats stupid, and literally no information that is how it would work

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The biggest activity in EVE is now broken with spike of LAGS

  • go try to spin your ship in station, :rofl:
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