The rest of us managed to survive.
Why haven’t you?
GUYS I HAVE A GOOD IDEA ! Let’s all make a game on a game market which already has its own giant game.
Dude, If people want to play dota, they play dota. If they want lol, they play lol. If they want Eve, they play Eve. Keep in mind that if you don’t like Eve, you are totally free to play another game. I genuinely wish you enjoy heartstone as much as you can, and maybe later when you realize what Eve is, to enjoy Eve too, at this moment.
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So, you agree that this isn’t an aquarium, but a slaughter farm.
I survived too. I unsubbed for 3 months firstly, then I jumped into a WH1 for a month. After that I tried to survive in a cellar like those heroes in a post apocalypse movie.
Dude, you just waked up from a cryo capsule, looks like. Did you read all those posts on previous forum and on this forum about this? Those aren’t my posts. They want to play EVE, but they can’t do this, partially due to Wardecs, because they are milked by other groups, because they are farmed. So they quit. No problems for them. Let’s say ‘Whatever? What’s next?’. I’m bad at English grammar, but I hope you understood it.
No, they don’t want to play Eve. They want Eve to change, to play something that is not Eve.
Whatever you do, people will not like it. This is not a reason to change.
Looks like you just waked up from cryo capsule.
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in defense of the vocabulary…
"to seize and take away by force "
Wars can be opted out of with two click and 0 repercussions, definitely not appropriate
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butterfly effect…
Sorry m8 everything in EvE is Player versus Player in one fashion or another
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I’m gonna go get some lunch now (EVE PvP) and then I will come home and cut grass (EVE PvP). Later I will go to work (EVE PvP). After that I will come home and get a shower (more EVE PvP) and then go to bed (you guessed it…EVE PvP)! Jezz you guys are obsessed. I can feel my IQ dropping the more I read of this thread.
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I’m sorry, but no! Looks like you just waked up from cryo capsule. Your conversations just proves it. I don’t want to mix apples with pears, I don’t want to take exceptions just to build a brand new theory just to show that I’m right in any case. But I’ll make an exception in this case, for you.
They want Eve to change, to play something that is not Eve?
Than explain me please. Why Null-Sec alliances want the Fozzie Sov to be changed? Why they want Jump Fatigue to be changed? Why they don’t like the current Rorquel? So, they want to play something that is not EVE. This isn’t a wish of Hi-Sec creabears. So, if I’ll began an anti-Fozzie SoV thread than people will like it, if I’ll began a Fozzie Sov thread - people will not like it. This is why you just can’t be in a group to balance it, because you haven’t a neutral position on Wardecs and EVE PVE. You are a lobby (aka lobbyist) of those groups, which are interested in current Wardecs. Yes, with current Fozzie Sov many Null-Sec players just quit EVE - “they don’t want to play EVE”, as many Hi-Sec carebears don’t like to playe EVE, with current Wardec mechanics.
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Exactly. Its funny how dumb so many of the thoughtless status quo defenders who live on these forums really are.
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First, looks like your head is still in the kryo capsule. Don’t forget to plug your neuron when you wake up, cause you are typing nonsense at the moment.
Second, the topic here is wardec. I won’t explain something to you that is not related. Especially since you have huge difficulties to understand something as simple as the basis of Eve. You are mixing pears and kryo capsules.
The people who complain about wardec don’t accept that any non-NPC corporation can get wardecced. However, this is a fundamental part of Eve.
If you don’t like this, go find yourself another game.
That’s damn rich coming from you; in fact it describes your forum modus operandi.
PvE orientated groups already have plenty of ways to minimise the risk of surprise explosions, they just can’t be arsed to use the tools at their disposal to enable them to do so; your safety in Eve is your responsibility.
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If you want to talk about it, Drac sent you the link.
If you don’t fine by me.
I’m not posting any of it here since it’s already a fustercluck
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Hmmm. This is good, this is good. It’s the first step made to break the bots in EVE. Looks like a lobby-bot began to glitch…
Now I’m seeing where the issue is. You define PVP and Competition as the same thing. I define PVP is an act of active aggression towards another player. This means acts like bumping, tackling and/or shooting at them. This does NOT include passive aggression such as mining the same ore belt as another player or two incursion fleets rushing to start the same site first. When I talk to other people about PVP, this is the predominant definition they use.
Herein lies the problem and why you are butting heads with everyone who is either a casual player or not an eve player at all. Not once in my life have I heard anyone in casual conversation, including in eve, talk about PVP and immediately refer to the marketplace, mining, ratting, or any of the other PVE or Non-direct player interactions you can do in this game.
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OMFG
You spaceship nerds could REALLY do with some good old fashion sex in your lives !!!
Like, raelly now …
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Birthdays, xmas and the occasional drunken escapade.
It’s called marriage.
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Yes, most people use PvP to refer to combat. It is even typical for EVE players to use PvP to mean shooting other players. However, keep in mind that CCP disagrees with this. From the, admittedly a bit old, New Player Guide:
Furthermore, as we mentioned previously, once you enter New Eden you must consider every action you take as a form of PvP since this is the core game concept. In the asteroid field you’re competing with other pilots to obtain resources; you may also have to defend against ore thieves. On the market you battle for control of the economy in certain areas; for the supply and demand of your products versus other aspiring tycoons. On the battlefield you may fight for glory, for money, or for the right to rule whole areas of space. As always in EVE, it’s your choice.
CCP uses the broader definition for PvP a players competing against each other in a broad sense.
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That’s another form of PvP. Consensual, somehow …
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I definitely hear what your saying. The concept is new to me in the video game realm. But in life I’m very familiar with the concept. Businesses competing with one another and are very much actively working against one another. But aren’t in each other’s parking lot setting things on fire. Like a national gas station chain opening up next to a “mom and pop”, even tho they’ll lose money just to put them out of business.
I think the reason why so many feel this way about eve is that the whole game is driven by the market. Isk rules in eve and everything is tied to a monetary value which gives everything a competitive edge and money by its nature sets people against one another. The “haves and the have nots”. In life if you are putting yourself into any market, even if that market is labor (having a job), your very presence in the market sets you against others who are competing for the same market.
Again it’s semantics and I’m way too long winded. I think it just boils down to a lack of communication on ccps part toward the player.
Maybe they should just hide the “corporation” tab in a clever spot so newbies aren’t tempted to go there till they’re ready.