Wars and hopping Corps/Accounts etc... Issue: Avoiding the 14 Days rules after loosing WarHQ

Brave currently burns one War HQ after another, but something strange is in this neighbourhood. For me this isn´t an issue, out of Corp Chars, Hauling Service, bla bla bla.
But since we ping fleets for this and raiding my german soul is itching like

Let me point out some very ODD stuff here:

Major

  • There are Corps/players joining the Aggressive part during the war at the last minute as support. Not as allys they switch-swapping with their whole corp.

  • Leaving the Alliance to avoid the 14 days time to declare war against the same target.
    That’s some of the stuff I learned during the time Brave is burning war HQs.
    There is probably more but people already upset bringing this topic up again and again.
    No worries.. Here I am.. i will keep this alive until we all happy.

Minor depending how we solve above:

  • They only have a single Structure online which doesn’t reflect any Risk vs. Reward schematic we usually have in EVE.

I don´t think there is any good aspect, i don´t want to take the option from 10 Man Highsec corp to try out a war against Goons, Frat or Init… You can´t give it a pricetag they can´t pay.
*But 10 man won´t be able to defend against it.. so they have like 3 Days of war.. than 14 days break… *
If they like it they can join

This my request to bring this up in the CSM Talk and find another solution for this mechanics.

Main solution which would probably make a lot of people happy.

If an Alliance loses their WAR HQ all Members are flagged and can’t declare war against this entity for another 14 Days.

  • You can’t join any Alliance Corp as a player which has an active war against the same entity you already lost your HQ.

  • You can´t create a new Corp/Alliance to declare war against the same entity as long as any members are already flagged for losing the WAR HQ against this entity.

tl:dr if you lose your war HQ, there is no way you can participate for 14 days against this entity. This also prevents Corp/Alliance hopping.

Also it doesn´t break their playstyle since they NOW need to actually defend their WAR HQ if they want to continue the WAR.

Perspective for Wardeccers:

You are not greedy and declare war against single Alliance, like Goons.
You lose your HQ, you need to wait 14 Days.
So you declare war against INIT.
You lose your HQ, you need to wait 14 Days.
So you declare war against Frat.
You lose your HQ, you need to wait 14 Days.

Every Wardec is approx 2-3 Days depending on the defender destroying the Astrahus.
So they either start properly defending or target Alliance one by one.
Otherwise they will have 14 days of waiting time.. then they can declar War against all Nullsec Alliances again.

If you disagree please keep in mind which we want to have a risk vs rewards system which is fair to everybody. By fair it means if you attack an whole “empire” you need to expect heavy punch and you can´t just duck away.

Also this what i have found in this forum:

if EVE Uni talking directly to CCP isn’t going to fix things, how is the CSM??

Hmm, this is a very good question.
Didn´t knew there was already direct exchange between EVE Uni and CCP about it.
Can only do assumptions about it.
Do we have some records what was addressed by EVE UNI ?
But probably exactly the above loophole…

The only thing i got told is which it works as intended with the Corp Loophole.
But this also i got told… :frowning:

Puh… would love if CSM can look again in this issue.
Or maybe its already on a very long list of changes which are upcomming on Fanfest 2026.

in one of the topics above, a EVE Uni member mentions they been in direct contact with CCP about it last year.

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Ok, looks like i need to read them then.
Sorry its 4 o´clock here should head to bed…

That one is on me.

This was brought up to CCP several times during the CSM summit last week and I feel like they’re grasping not only the issue but why it’s a problem for high sec in general. But, if you’re going to be at Fanfest, by all means bring it up again.

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Food for thought, from a newbie to these war mechanics:

When an entity declares war an another and that war ends, they get a 2-week timer (This exists already as I understand). When that same entity declares war a second time and that war ends, the timer increases another 2 weeks to 4 weeks. So on and so forth. Alternatively, or in addition to, the price of the war also increases, doubling each time.

When an entity declares war on another entity that only has high sec structures, that timing penalty doubles. (ie: instead of 2 week increments, do 4 weeks).

When a new corporation or alliance is created, it cannot declare war against a high sec-only entity for a period of 2 months.

I’d also do something like, the price of maintaining a war increases each week. This way, it encourages people declaring wars to “sh*t or get off the pot”. These endless high sec wars would be less tempting to maintain if the cost was 100mil → 200mil → 300mil → 400mil → 500mil, etc etc.

Just throwing ideas out there.

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Make it a Carthago delenda est Carthago delenda est - Wikipedia
Unitil is solved.

If there is no solution insight before Fanfest i will be there.
And trust me germany is in my blood, in my soul, in my heart.
I will stand up for it … even if it is not the biggest problem in eve.

I am still waiting for voice/video lined missions.
Left for dead, cinematic EVENTS with players… not just some CCP dreads shooting something in “one single” System.. I am offtrifting for the main topic.

Wardecmechanics

Sumup:
Points out which if you flag them by Database, they can´t ship around the “cooldown” timer.
Hits the nail with the Hammer
Thread closed. October 2025

Please close war dec alliance/corp hopping loophole

That one got mentioned to me regarding directly talking between EVE Uni and CCP.

…after losing a war dec by hopping to a different corp or alliance, they are perpetuating constant wars

…Yes the CEO and the leadership have been talking to the dev’s about this problem.
→ No Information what was talked about.
EVE UNI made a holding corp, which is a Solution. Members can use the Structures freely in Highsec.

Thats a very good point you could bypass the loophole with ALTS and ALTS Corp.
This still means you need to omega a lot of Accounts and skill them into the right ship.
(Money will always be in the Favor of CCP)

The rest of the Thread is spam and not holding any good information to solve the problem.
There just fighing about if eve is pvp or not.

War feeds war, and a price increase for this pure porpuse sounds also as an option.
Just need to find a sweet spot where it would be nice to have it so fance to make an rest of X Weeks/Month.

Like if you go for 4 Weeks, and than you stop.
You also have X weeks which you can´t reanage.

Same if you loose your War HQ. Standard is 14 Days.
But if the war was for 1 Month you can´t reange for X Weeks Month.

Noted, open for disscussion.