This is something called prioritisation. For every bug that the noise of the community gets fixed, another one goes unfixed as a result, the question comes down to the community being able to make CCP aware of which bugs are the worst.
I’d imagine to see what player behaviour is when introduced to the system. It’s not like CCP can perfectly predict what players are going to do when handed something like this, and the fact that there is a fix waiting is surprisingly prescient.
The bug of site not despawning when someone takes the relic and leaves does probably classify as “bad”.
thats just it though, there is zero benefit to not rolling out the fix. if you see that there is a potential problem, and you have a way to fix that problem, why would you not just fix it BEFORE it becomes a problem?
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I agree with Bjorn,
With a fix already available…WHY NOT USE IT?
This is really lame and stupid, trying to figure out how to do the site i received my 10 points for site completion because of someone else.
But my ability to kill drifters for my 20 pts is a no go since the sites do not de-spawn and new ones are not spawning because of it.
On a whim i decided to look at contracts, and yup sure enough the required items are there…
CCP should remove these contracts, kill every single one of these items that are in hangars and contracts since they are not marketable.
Am I angry, yes…there is content that for all intents and purposes i can not interact with at all, the chance to interact with it has been taken away by people breaking the Event everywhere.
This is crap.
FIX IT!!!
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I am okay with people farming the items to sell on contract, some people would rather just blitz the site to complete it. (and its a way for new pilots to complete the sites without spawning drifters and at least get some of the agency rewards)
that being said, the sites SHOULD have some sort of despawn timer that gets activated as soon as the item gets taken, 20-30 minutes seems reasonable (gives time for people to complete the site.)
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I’d like to second Bjorn’s idea.
Hey. Just went around and gathered my ship (30j - died in low-sec station lol - back 30j to jita, buy a new one) And the relics are all pretty much missing +10 sites in hi-sec. Cant find a single site to complete because people have ran away with the relic I have found out. Only after asking around. You guys better fix this ASAP haha. Its pretty bull**** and restart the whole event or give more days to complete… Cheers and btw. Please tell when you plan to fix this. Because yeah. Its pretty crap
Edit1: Reading what some have said. I only got more and more angry. If you knew about it. Just don’t bloody deploy the damn thing. Complete waste of time and resources. Whatever have a good day
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Without wanting to appear confrontational here, that is absolutely absurd.
Firstly this is eve.
Secondly no person alive is going to waste time dropping off the trinary for no gain whatsoever if he already has the daily reward, and he can save it for tomorrows run.
This is known as “bloody obvious” and a four year old appears to have more awareness and insight of consequences.
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This bug is pretty bad. And I mean really bad. Go around hi.sec and try to find sites that’s not already taken. I dare you lol. Its totally ■■■■ and they should have gotten out a quick fix. And what the hell? He already said they have a quick fix ready? Or if not. Should be fairly easy to take one out. Already spent around 2-3h on this crap…
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I find it amazing that you allowed this to go live with this absurd bug in place.
CCP have had ample experience with the playerbase to KNOW this was going to happen, 100% within 30 seconds.
If it was deliberately designed as a troll, you could not have Created a better mechanic to make SURE it was going to happen.
Single reward, no reward for handing more in, can be sold on contract, dropping it off first after downtime, ensures you can be left alone in the next site, screws up everyone else= tears and frustration for others.
Have you ever encountered an EVE player?
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Let down so far 
by the time I logged in to run them, my home region (Heimatar) was full of dead and cleared sites that did not despawn…
Hope they fix this for next downtime!
That’s bull****
The whole reason we are stuck with this garbage agency format is people complaining about site stealers in the good events that guarantee drops like rogue swarm. So they k ow people are gonna steal this and they know people will immediately complain about it.
If they honestly thought it wouldn’t be an issue then they’re even more inept than the previous versions of the agency would suggest.
Agency is 0/4.
How do you get something wrong 4 times in a row.
and you think hundreds of unfinished sites all over the place is not the good reason to patch ASAP? The only reason such crap mechanism exists is that agency has a dailiy task to complete. Dragon again shows that he has no idea how MMO and especially EvE works. Not to mention he didn’t even write names into overview settings correctly.
Apart from that, sites shows possibilities. I wonder if mechanism is random, or there are 3-4 possible encounters.
These sites just don’t seem worth the time to do for the little reward you get.
From the few sites I did manage to find, I got several +3% damage boosters, a 7% damage booster, some speed boosters, a decent amount of blue loot and a Valkyrie attribute accelerator. I’d say these sites are worth it.
So nothing official on that they will actually fix it on DT?
I do agree with the other replies, CCP Dragon may not be able to see it because he is a new dev, everybody else playing EvE sees it immediately.
In fact what we are doing here is helping teach a new team of devs to understand and how to program EvE, and going through every possible mistake somebody can do while learning the basics. I admit that some field tests can only be done on TQ, but CCP should be bloody transparent about the situation, just a big “ALPHA” or “BETA” sign on top of “The Agency” would work wonders.
What you gain with now is backslash after backslash and unhappy people not willing to test buggy and unfinished stuff anymore.
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I think it`s question for QA, not personal for CCP Dragon.
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Some thoughts about PvP in the new sites …
… when running the site and killing the rats you are a sitting duck for 10+ minutes, so easy prey for any gang passing by (only way out is a quick stab refit)
… when trying to engage a site runner solo you will have a hard time, because aggro switch (see above) and the site runner fitted for tanking the site, so essentially you need to tank the site + the site runner and break the tank of the site runner quick enough before he is out of range as you are webbed to standstill
… the best option is IMO to wait cloaked or dscan immune in the second room of a finished or untouched site, but you have to break the site runner, who is fitted for neut and warp disruption counter (probably using an alt).
This doesn’t look fun for both parties, either getting ganked or shafted while trying solo PvP. Maybe I missed and option …