Warzone extraction info/thread

[Arronicus]

@Alderson_Point

This is known as “bloody obvious” and a four year old appears to have more awareness and insight of consequences.

You don’t make a convincing point. First, what four year old? And second, the reward is that the site clears and respawns. If everyone worked together, the sites would be respawning commonly. Think of this as a social experiment.

[DerpimusPrime_Aihaken]

Well quite obviously it isn’t working.
So should they continue a “social experiment” that is obviously pissing off people(tears lol)

[Aspecter_en_Welle]

@Arronicus

If everyone worked together, the sites would be respawning commonly. Think of this as a social experiment.

In past we have same problem with not completed relic and data sites. CCP resolve this problem with 1h timer (if you trying to hack any container in exploration site, it despawn in one hour anyway)

[Jeremiah_Saken]

Another would be to steal container and flag as suspect like in other events. I wouldn’t do it in other spaces that hisec because all that you wrote.

@Arronicus

Think of this as a social experiment.

Rats in the maze?

[Themanfromdalmontee]

I can confirm the Vexor fit is cheap and does what it says on the tin.

[Matthias_Ancaladron]

Any idea on a Gila with two girls hardeners? Cap is up in the 70s but I’m apprehensive to take a 300m cruiser into one of these.

[Matthias_Ancaladron]

Can caps use the gate?

[Anna_Maria_Yolo]

@Jin_taan

This is something called prioritisation. For every bug that the noise of the community gets fixed, another one goes unfixed as a result, the question comes down to the community being able to make CCP aware of which bugs are the worst.

Sure man. But this problem couldn’t occur if you chose one of the actions:

1. Test your stuff before implementing on tranquility. If you offered for example 50k skillpoints on tranqulity for everyone who for example would run 30 sites, you would get your stuff tested by players. I always was surprized when the rewards for testing you were offered on sisi and took them away before a next patch.

2. Copy Crimson Harvest / guristas event / any other event liked by players. Engine works, is well tested. Instead wasting the time on this agency thing, you would have more time for fixing the other problems, right?

[Chan_aar]

I have a feeling that “The Agency” is going to be the way CCP are going to do all types of events in the future.

The amazing / fantastic / awesome REAL events (involving ccp actors) we got in the past are something CCP either does not have the time, the talent or the resources for (probably a combination of all three) anymore.

We are still in the beta testing of The Agency, hopefully it will get better as it goes along. Since this is what we are going to be stuck with for events (CCP should call them something else because we still have that vision of Live Events in our heads) we have to make the best of it.

We have to continue to run with them, give our feedback and hopefully nudge CCP in the right directions.

[Jeremiah_Saken]

Problem is dev assigned to that content has no clue what he is doing, why he’s doing it, didn’t learned of his mistakes and is forcing this whole agency thing no matter what. What is wrong with crimson harvest for example? Why having dailies in sandbox will help with anything?

[Steroidastroid_Ormand]

Here’s my story: I’m generally offline, just training skills, but for the second time I see that there’s some big event,
and I’m logging in and spending couple hours and a bil ISK to assemble a ship…
And the event is a total failure because all sites are empty!
And the previous one was failure too, because the first task I tried was "complete a site in T3C"
and it was freaking bugged! (and I wrote a supp ticket and they said, yes, we’re working on it. But I don’t need you WORKING on it! I need you working on it BEFORE you release it!)
So I logged off untill that event was over.

I mean we have great variety on entertaining market,
and I always believe in CCP, that they can produce a content that won’t make me say: “I have better things to do!”…
I mean getting killed in PUBG in first 30 seconds because you can’t find a gun pisses me less than this warzone.
This warzone fail probably pisses me off even more than that New player experince and CCPGhost
(a smart and educated dude, but SO clueless about what he’s doing!), but that’s another story.

FeelsBadMan for CCP because it’s their business and they’re so bad at it! Git good pls!

[Jimmy_Valentine]

During my 40+ jumps i didn’t find even a single Event Plex that wouldn’t be empty and unfinished.((

[Nana_Skalski]

I am glad I didnt even log in to try and find them.

[DerpimusPrime_Aihaken]

Still dead sites, good job CCP.

[Aspecter_en_Welle]

What did you expect?

[Jeremiah_Saken]

@Nana_Skalski

I am glad I didnt even log in to try and find them.

Yep, waste of time, flying for 2 hour yesterday, 2 sites acutally doable, don’t know the total number I visited.

[Chan_aar]

@DerpimusPrime_Aihaken

Still dead sites, good job CCP.

@CCP_Dragon did the fix for uncompleted sites not go in today?

[CCP_Dragon]

@Tipa_Riot

does the agency window text mean, the boosters are only available via agency points and only 2 per char running the sites?

The Agency Support Kits that contain the tank, damage and speed boosters are available via Agency Points, however you can also get these via drops in the site.

The Accelerators are also available via Agency Points, and yes only 2. However there are additional Accelerators also available from the site. The drop rate might not be correct on Tranquility so I’m looking into that.

@Sharcy

Are all the site the same btw? In degree of difficulty/spawns I mean, depending on system security status?

There are slightly different spawn groups for High, Low and Null/W. Null and W-space share the same spawn groups. Difficulty of the spawn groups is similar across the board.

@Chan_aar

I would guess that low and null have better chances of dropping the more valuable loot but I think the spawns are the same.

If I wanted the good stuff, I’d be looking for the Inquisitors.

@zluq_zabaa

Any comment on that?

The Quartermaster is the only guy I know at this time.

OOC: I wish I could have decayed them if you left the site, but that’s not something that I could do with the tools at hand. As much as we have some really technically amazing tools to work with, some of the content tools are extremely primitive. Or I’m just spoiled… either way, it is a weakness we have already started to address.

@Rexxar_Santaro

A site is fresh if you get The Quartermaster incoming message while warping in.

Correct! I should specify that it is the Quartermaster who gives you the first message when warping to the site.

The confusion is that the message you get when activating the gate will always pop up. That’s the wrong message. But I don’t play this game to read so I never know which one is which.

@zluq_zabaa

Thanks to the Devs who made it.

Same team made the previous events too. I’ll let the others know the work is appreciated. It’s all a matter of getting enough time and understanding the tools. Unfortunately, we’re going to see some re-used content for a couple months while we put together some better tools.

@Bjorn_Tyrson

so you knew that dead sites might be a problem, and you already had a fix for the potential problem ready before it even went live… so why wasn’t the fix applied immediately?

Let me give a timeline: I was made aware of the problem about a half-hour after it went live, fix was ready about an hour after it went live. The fix was just being tested when I posted that I was aware of the issue nearly two hours after it went live.

Also, it is not my call when a fix goes out. It should go live shortly.

@Wanda_Fayne

You underestimated people in Eve hoarding everything that doesn’t get nailed down, though.

Yes. I certainly did.

@DerpimusPrime_Aihaken

So nothing official on that they will actually fix it on DT?

Fix coming soon. Didn’t have a chance to post here this morning.

@Tipa_Riot

I do agree with the other replies, CCP Dragon may not be able to see it because he is a new dev, everybody else playing EvE sees it immediately.

QFT

@Aspecter_en_Welle

I think it`s question for QA, not persinal for CCP Dragon.

QA can’t catch everything, especially with our sped up timeline. Mostly they (and I too) are just making sure it functions as designed. The design was the flaw here, and that’s not something that QA can reliably catch 100% even IF they had enough time to do full tests.

@Anna_Maria_Yolo

Copy Crimson Harvest / guristas event / any other event liked by players. Engine works, is well tested. Instead wasting the time on this agency thing, you would have more time for fixing the other problems, right?

Crimson Harvest, Yoiul Festival and Guardian’s Gala will see “copied” events. We will integrate them into the Agency and put a bit of work into updating rewards.

@Chan_aar

did the fix for uncompleted sites not go in today?

Fix is in. Uncompleted sites that existed prior to the downtime have not been cleaned up yet. They will be, I’m trying to find out how long that will take. I’m hoping the answer is not “during the next downtime” because that’s not acceptable.

[Bjorn_Tyrson]

I have to say, I am quite impressed with the comprehensive response. frankly its NOT what i’ve come to expect from ccp. the whole agency thing so far has been a bit of a cluster-■■■■. but communication goes a long way towards improving the experience.

[Aspecter_en_Welle]

@CCP_Dragon

If I wanted the good stuff, I’d be looking for the Inquisitors.

Btw, big thanks for answer. It`s very important for us.