Other than the 0second bug basically boning a number of people unless you extend things, would it be possible to have timers at 23 hours instead of 24?
Some of us filthy casuals cant afford to start these things an hour later every day thanks to completion times. If this is already supposed to be the case and is suppressed by the 0s bug, please ignore me 
Executive summary:
This article is an attempt to provide constructive feedback of âThe Agencyâ event from my prospective as I progressed through it. Others are encouraged to post their experiences to provide a fuller prospective on the event and its pros and cons. With constructive feedback, it is hoped that this post and other comments are read by those who are the creators of content.
Day one:
I was kind of surprised that there was an event. I had no prior knowledge that the Agency was starting, until it went live. I am not sure if this was intended. If I would have known what was coming I would have prepared ships in advance. I happened to be in my favorite constellation for doing these kinds of PVE interactions, so I had several ships on hand, and quickly refitted for the local NPC. It took me a couple of hours to complete the 4 working quests, as the T3 cruiser and Battlecruiser quests would not complete. I spent quite a bit of time scanning down various combat sites thinking that only certain sites would trigger the 2-ship type use specific quests. This ultimately exacerbated a point I make further on.
The next couple of days went on with me just ignoring the ship specific quests until I noted a patch applied and then would try them again. After a few days those quests began to function, but differently worded indicating a 10 Faction NPC kill count instead of a combat site.
I received the single PLEX reward, but subsequent rewards were not delivered until 7/27 four days until the expiration of the event.
Once all the quests began to function correctly, I developed a methodology to do as many of them simultaneously as possible, I have lowered the time to complete to a little over an hour. This is difficult to reduce further as the scanning down of combat sites takes a while when lot of players are looking for these sites, and I must clear my cache to reset the timers from 0s or at least I did up to 7/26. This is an irritation that I could have done without.
On to pros and cons:
Pros:
This appears to a long-term project to provide additional PVE content to those of us who have been moaning for additional/improved PVE content geared towards the single player or small groups, for something like 13 years now. Well, there have been improvements overtime, but PVE is an area that a lot of the player base does participate in, and feels it is neglected. Iâll take anything I can get that is considered content for this area, and I play it out if only to provide feedback and logs, no matter how bugged it is.
Cons:
The rewards were not very incentivizing to entice a veteran. I donât care about PLEX, but what I do care about in order of appearance: Ships, skill points, skins, boosters that increase primary attributes, ISK, boosters that increase effects, Tee shirts (Clothing), Trinkets/collectables and finally PLEX.
The inclusion of quests that require a T3 Cruiser are out of reach for Alpha accounts. I used a Gnosis out of convenience for a Battlecruiser, I had it handy and it is a âdo allâ boat. But, it is the only option for an Alpha to use. Unless an Alpha can get ahold of a Gnosis, the battlecruiser quest is not possible for them. Because of this I think many Alpha accounts donât bother with the event, because they can only do 2/3 of the quests without obtaining an expensive and limited edition ship as well as the end reward being a skin for a ship they cannot fly. The market for the skin will likely be saturated for some time, so even selling the skin wonât be that profitable given the effort to obtain it. If possible, present a different set of quests to an Alpha that are all completable, and with rewards that are appropriate to Alpha accounts. This especially applies to true Alpha accounts and not Omega players alting an Alpha.
The 23 hour wait time to repeat the series is too long. This timer should be around 20 hours. This still holds to once a day repeating, unless you are obsessive about it. The reason for this is due to the time it takes to complete all 6 objectives. If you donât finish all within a short period of each other, you wonât be able to repeat them simultaneously on the next cycle, unless you wait for all the quests to become available and then start. (This made the must clear your cache to reset timers bug extra infuriating) The result moves the repeat cycle ahead again for the following day. If you just proceed without all the quests available, you will spend nearly the same amount of time completing all 6 as you would have if you waited until all 6 were available and could be completed simultaneously. For the casual player, this ultimately pushes the time that you can complete the quests later into the evening in my case, originally starting at 9pm and over the course of the event moving to 12am before quest resets occurred. As the event progressed and I got faster I could keep this timer from additional advancement into the wee small hours. But there is little chance to reverse the time of reset once it progressed.
Summary: Yes, there are more cons listed than pros. But this isnât designed to be a beat down, only some suggestions of where the activity could be improved as I suspect it is being designed for a long-term deployment loaded with various quest content over time.
[quote=âCCP_Dragon, post:215, topic:10824, full:trueâ]
We will be making sure that everyone gets the rewards that they have the points for.[/quote]
Well, I guess thatâs great news for anyone who hasnât encountered any of the numerous bugsâŚ
edit: Hmmm⌠how did I break that quote ?
So I have thinked about that âeventâ that is indeed a daily system and apart from obvious bug fixing I have few things on my mind. I even noted everything in notebook to not forget.
This feels like daily, so to counteract that (it have rather poor ratings among EVE playerbase), I propose few changes.
Make event feel like a true exclusive event, âeliteâ even, and do that by following:
Now how to deal with seasonality? Seasonality should be achieved by making additional missions with reduced completion conditions, available only during the special events. Also additional rewards included when achieving the key points along the event reward line completion, specific for season and included in the âmystery boxâ crates.
Itâs been the ânext downtimeâ and I still donât have the Tengu skin the the redeem area. Will patiently wait, just wanted to let you know in case this wasnât expected.
What things are changing for the August event? Thereâs nothing listed in the âUpcomingâ forum and nothing in âTest Server Feedbackâ⌠so the things being changed are not public⌠uh, ok?
I am opposed to The Agency event as it was implemented in July. I prefer it didnât exist. I could not have designed it any worse.
EVE is bad enough for new players with its free-to-play/pay-to-win game presentation, The Agency is not going to improve things significantly, especially if they cannot log on everyday. Also, stop trying to scam players with the âstarter pack with more slots, more tankâ. Itâs a â â â â â â â embarrassment no matter how your perspective: player or corporate. Iâm keenly aware of the player retention curve, but I donât think such a tactic is really in your interest. Plenty more can be said on that topic but Iâll leave it for now at: âDonât try (that hard) to scam the critical new players since you already are presenting yourself as an F2P/P2W game.â
This worries me the most ⌠does this mean we will see more Agency like stuff and no real event?
More than likely.
I try to make this short. Have been doing the Events since the First Blood Harvest. Iâm not even joking when I have to say that somehow someone managed to make the events worse and worse with each.
Itâs really fascinating. Every single Event created a lot of discussions and players came up with a lot of ideas, concrete proposal and such. Everything that made any kind of sense was ignored. Everything that was good about the first Events was taken away. To the point of now, which is a completely meaningless, shallow and absolutely unengaging form of content.
I stopped contributing proposals to the whole Event thing because I felt we are not heard anyhow and critizising without being constructive is bad⌠Now I realize I can contribute in the only constructive way I can still think of at the current state of âeventsâ: being destructive.
Just get rid of them and stop all this nonsense. Free the Dev hours for something that makes more sense, like taking a walk outside or go have a coffee. Really. This is getting embarassing.
P.S. and no: this is not a rant, it is me being constructive. These events are a shame for EVE and misrepresents heavily what this game can be. It can be interesting and if any outsider just looks at âeventsâ they will think we have the worst kind of no-brain content humanly possible. Even afk-ratting is interesting compared to this.
Edit: and to the community I propose we stop trying to make proposals when it becomes obvious this will stay bad and probably they find a way to make it worse. Deny all constructive comments of proposing how to make this better. They will not listen. Event-team is inpenetratable for logic, reason or player experience.
Would not go that far, but the event team is a new hire. They likely have no expierience with EvE, and donât yet believe that things working for other games do not work in New Eden. But I hope the cause is not lost yet. 
Thank you for your post.
With the threat of more events like this on the horizon, I hope people will continue to speak truthfully.
Now, since I did all those dailies, may as well stay on the treadmill of â â â â and get my emoji badge. 
They are looking for a way to mass-produce events. Easily swappable parts in a frame thatâs easy to modify.
Consider those two (serpentis and this⌠whatever you call this) as an alpha feature.
I completed all six challenges yesterday. Logging on today, two of the six challenges that I have been given have been marked as âcompleteâ. For âBattlecruiser Enforcementâ â10/10 pirates killedâ is shown and for âBountiful Preyâ 1,000,000/1,000,000 ISK earned". I canât do anything with these two challenges.
The other four challenges which included versions of the two above (but with target totals set to zero) have all been completed normally and the âNext challengeâ timer initiated.
The agency:
Yup, probably worst run event Iâve participated in. When I got home today and logged in I bet you canât guess what the status of my challenges was? You got it, 0s remaining. Oddly enough I didnât even get my daily login booster either, it was also stuck on 0s. I logged out to start the LogLite to get another bug report going and at least the booster kicked in, but challenges still glitched, again. This is the 2nd day Iâve completely lost to this crap. My brother has actually lost 3 days of not being able to run the challenges because they never refreshed.
If it is intended to be done once a day, just have it reset at downtime, plain and simple. This 23 hour cooldown means if I donât get a chance to log in at that mark then each day its going to be completed slightly later and later, eventually causing a skip because its too late. And that is presuming I donât have huge delays in trying to get the dumb timers to refresh like they were supposed to.
Lets say that there is a lot of room for improvement. The biggest issue being the really shitty rewards. Doing ~40 tasks for five space diamonds, one 30 minute booster and a single skin? Come on, thats crap.
Scrap the 23 hour timer nonsense. Reset the stuff at server downtime
And look whatâs back today:
So close, yet so far.
(Iâd guess it decided I donât get credit for the completed task because the agency window was minimized when I completed it.)
Ah, I didnât know that. Sorry for the harsh words then. It anyway wasnât so much a personalized criticism as a proposal to completely get rid of Events. If you draw a line from the first Blood Harvest and see how it went steep down the hill from there, with every event being worse then its presuccessor, it seems there is no other choice.
Unless the team finds some way to really include player feedback, I donât see how any improvement will happen.
One would think that CCP can internally review their past events and draw conclusions from past. One would be disappointed.
Maybe they draw different conclusion than we are âŚ
