Yep, having {Racial} Titan V is so going to help you beat that guy you’re fighting in a frigate 1 vs 1.
In my opinion, the full picture makes it look even worse. It suggests that you can only become great if you buy PLEX, it suggests that PLEX mean power and influence. To a new player, it insinuates that you have to buy PLEX in order to belong to the big guys. And it sill suggests that you get more slots/stats by buying these packs compared to standard ships. If you think about it and know how EVE works, you know that it does not work this way, but new players do not know this. Instead, and this is devious in my opinion, they get accustomed to this kind of procedure once CCP eventually goes down this full F2P path.
“These frigates are better equipped for battle than your starting rookie corvette ship” is the important part I think. Hardly suggests you will dominate the universe in the best ship in the game.
I’m not sure why you (and many others, not trying to single you out, just happen to be replying to you) have such a low opinion of the intelligence of the new player. You were a new player once, were you as thick then as you seem to think the average new player in EVE is now?
Isn’t the average EVE player older and wiser than the average gamer? Aren’t we in our 30’s, 40’s and 50’s? These people have figured out the best deal when spending hundreds of thousands of £’s on houses, cars, educations and holidays and you think they can’t see a £4.24 starter pack (important wording) in a spaceship game for what it is? Really?
Again, not just pointing these comments at you Rivr. This thread has many comments from people happy to casually insult the intelligence of the new player. If you can see the advert for what it is, why assume that being new to EVE turns otherwise perfectly intelligent human beings into drooling morons with no reading comprehension skills, no common sense and no experience with adverts trying to sell you things by making them sound better than they are?
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Have you noticed what CCP turned the game into? Have you noticed what the average human being growing up in a 1st world country has become? Do you realize what the uprising of television and social media did to culture and intelligence?
This isn’t a problem solely with new EVE players becoming dumber (and yes, CCP has dumbed the game down massively to accommodate for these players. They would never have survived the EVE from 6-7 years ago, before this ■■■■ started), this is a problem with humanity as a whole becoming dumber every generation. If you’re part of the dumbness then of course you won’t notice it, because how could you ever, but if you’re just a little smarter than the average human being then you really just have to look at the world we’re living in.
I’m not really a fan of looking down on the rest of the human race with the accompanying implication that I am smarter than everyone else. If you’re smart enough to see the wood for the trees, why do you assume others aren’t? While very edgy and ego flattering as your attitude no doubt is, it all seems a bit juvenile to me.
I’m talking about whether or not a person in the 30 - 70 age range who has made financial decisions for their entire life and been subjected to advertising for decades can see through a £4.24 advert or not. If you want to get on your soapbox about the state of the entire human race, you go right ahead. I’m not really interested in that.
I (not really) hate to disagree, but the important part is:
More weapon slots
More damage
More tank
in CAPITAL LETTERS next to the ships, whereas your part is hidden in a long text block.
When I started the game, there were no additional contents available for extra money. There was also no Starter Packs available for money for your free trail. You know, better times.
Yes, I very much question the motivations and intelligence of exactly these players. Remember, 10 years ago it was this age range that made “games” like Farmville, Angry Birds, Candycrush and many other atrocities a “smashhit”, a “hype” and dumped tons of money into these “games” for accelerators, bonus draws and tries, better raffle chances and so on. It is also the kind of age range that got and still gets hit hard by fraudulent business practices as we could witness in its full glory during the financial crisis since 2008, a resilient and growing title loan industry in the US because people need money quick or people voting for arguably terrible politicians despite obvious and court-tried evidence of their terribleness.
It doesn’t work like that though. People read the whole advert. You can’t pick individual words out or take sentences out of context and claim they represent the whole. Well, you can, and you are, but it’s not valid.
Those other words and sentences mean something. If you have to hide parts of the advert to make your point, then I think your point is on very shaky ground to say the least.
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Yes, but it implies that people go to “battle” in their starting rookie ships… 
And buying this pack you can come better prepared than others.
(does it tells anywhere that these ships can be obtained in the game too?)
I believe this is the result of constant “new players have tough start and need help” changes to the game. All of us started without this and still we succeeded the more the less but new players need it to even start?
Having this kind of mindset it’s an easy to look at them this way.
This opinion might be wrong but it has some ground.
There is not specified what kind of battle. That is a big question mark in Alpha mind. I assume everyone starting this game at least watched few PvP or PvE fitting guides somewhere.
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Okay but if this was a fantasy game and it said 'have a better weapon than your starter wooden sword" would you really think you were getting the best sword in the game? Or even anything particularly good? For £4.24? Really? 
It does specifically say you get better than your starter ship, which anyone with half a brain and some gaming experience will know is not a good ship.
Do they need it though? Really? I understand that if CCP have been constantly trying to pamper new players and wrap them up in cotton wool then that is not a good thing, but the assumption that this is needed and new players couldn’t manage without it … that’s where I have a problem. You managed. I managed. They would manage.
Its not worth that kind of cash for established player I think. It could be for uninformed new player tho.
The majority of new players are more likely to be in the age range of 10 to 25. Those are the people CCP is targeting. The dumb ones that happily spend their money on instant gratification and time savers, because it’s all they know. It’s the way of life they grew up with and they never had to learn critical thinking skills or start thinking for themselves. They are essentially puppets of the consumer society we’re living in.
And those people aged 30 to 70 are living in the very same society. That doesn’t necessarily mean they are dumb enough to fall for those ads, but considering creeping normality they could just as well fall for it like anyone else.
No, people don’t read the whole advert. Ads like these have become so common-place and normal that people ignore the most parts of it. Even if they should read everything, that still doesn’t mean they understand what’s written there. They see a wall of text of little interest to them and then they see the catchy MORE WEAPONS MORE TANK stuff. Do you think positioning, writing style, font size and coloring are completely arbitrary?
For every person that sees this trash ad for what it is, there will be at least 9 others that would buy right into it.
This is incredibly short sighted. The human race is more and more guided by advertising methods than ever before. HOW you advertise something is the most important part. Stop trying to play that down to support your ridiculous narrative about new players knowing just as much as vets. If something is advertised a certain way, it is for a reason. Somebody was paid to decide HOW to advertise it and what to put in capital letters and that decision is what everyone has a problem with. It gives the impression that EvE is a pay to win game, more so than it is. Those people you mentioned who spent thousands of dollars on cars and houses and other such junk, spent thousands of dollars on a nice car instead of a cheap one because of advertising not because the expensive car is a better decision. They bought the house that was 10% more than their budget because everyone is competing with each other, because of the consumerism based world we live in.
Seriously, trying to play down the importance of advertising by saying that anyone with a car and a house must be smart enough to be unaffected by it is insane, those are exactly the people it is aimed at because they have thousands of dollars to throw one way or another.
That’s the overwhelming evidence I’ve received.
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Do not mistake “better” and “the best”. But again: do CCP tell that you can get the same stuff in game without spending money?
I don’t know whether they need or not. However “CCP has numbers and information” so when they make a change it is usually “supported by statistics”.
Take from it whatever you want… Personally i was against almost any changes related to new players for many years. Like you have said:
And
Should it be true there will be no “small note on the bottom of advertisement” thingies. Big colorful numbers like “discount -90%” grab buyers attention and many of those never look beyond.
Anyone above trying to use my comments to further their ‘the entire world is dumber than me’ agenda can forget it. If you actually want to discuss the advert sensibly then fine (and a couple of you are), but I am not trading silly talk with egomaniacs. I fully expected to receive a lot of the comments posted above if I dared to suggest new players / people are not dumb. I’m well aware that’s not a popular stance to take on these forums.
So you people are freaking out about an ad/pack that is 5$, includes 5$ worth of PLEX and gives a few extra niceties? It’s not like all the player gets is the ships. It’s not like they are not receiving a bundled deal. So what is the issue? Oooo… The ad isn’t perfect? Wow… Color me amazed! I mean who would think that people who’s native language is not English would not craft the perfect ad that captures this concept?
Sorry but it is a 5$ bundle that gives a little extra with the PLEX. It’s not a crime against nature here. Heck, given other starting deals on many games, 5$ actually gives you a decent deal in eve. I just don’t get why people are so up in arms about such a silly thing.
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People who disagree with you are not egomaniacs. Some people just know more / understand more deeply than you.
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You totally misunderstand what’s going on. We want the advert to make EvE look like a good game, not a pay to win glorified phone game. It’s not about what you get in the pack or the cost, it’s the image the poor quality of advertising gives about what is actually a quite good and deep product.
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It has nothing to do with agreeing or not agreeing with me. Point completely missed I am afraid.
Loving the irony of your first sentence vs your second sentence though
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There is no irony there. They are both factual sentences that make sense together. You’re just clutching at straws because you’ve been repeatedly schooled.
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