What happened to the "High Sec Expansion" we were promised?

[Mei_Seung-Li]

@Vulvona_Ride-in

thats the very nature of the game itself.

You cannot go to a Ferrari Car dealer and ask them you make their Ferrari look more like a Peugot.

Sure you can

[Yiole_Gionglao]

Huh, that’s a Peugeot that pretends to look like a Ferrari, it’s the opposite of what he was saying. (not agreeing nor disagreeing, just noting it’s a Ferrari kit for the Peugeot 406 coupe, not an actual Ferrari)

[Grimliver_Aurilen]

it got lost in the same folder as player built stargates

[Agondray]

NS has the shipyards, empire has the fobs, it requires atleast a small team in good ships with lots of logi from what I read on it

[DeMichael_Crimson]

Obviously you misunderstand what I’m talking about. I have max skills and no problem surviving the site.

What I’m talking about is the actual site timer not allowing enough time to hack all 4 cans.

In my experience most of the time the site usually expires after hacking the 2nd or 3rd can. That’s why I find it very hard to believe players who say they do those sites all the time and always successfully hack all 4 cans.

Anyway, doesn’t matter. The main point of this thread is that CCP hasn’t delivered the big High Sec Expansion that was promised. Personally I don’t like hearing Expansions are being made specifically for each various sector of space. Going by that, it’ll be years before each specific sector of space get’s any new content added.

[Anderson_Geten]

@DeMichael_Crimson

In my experience most of the time the site usually expires after hacking the 2nd or 3rd can. That’s why I find it very hard to believe players who say they do those sites all the time and always successfully hack all 4 cans.

well since I do them 4 at 90% of time, I find hard to believe people who say they can’t. I agree that sometimes I only have the time to do 2 of them, but more likely taking time to scan, opening the special can first, not having a mwd, or not warping in cloaked may be what reduces your %rate.

[DeMichael_Crimson]

@Anderson_Geten

but more likely taking time to scan, opening the special can first, not having a mwd, or not warping in cloaked may be what reduces your %rate.

Definitely sounds logical and could easily be the case.

[Siegfried_Tahl]

I don’t warp in cloacked, I don’t use MWD, I go for special can first, still 3/4 times I do all 4 cans.

I run these sites in my combat exploration Phantasm, don’t have spare mid slot to fit a Cargo Scanner, so I go for special can first, as it usually holds half the sites loots, even though it may shorten time limit I go and grab it first. Traveling between cans is what taking most of the time in the site, and Phantasm has nice ~1400m/s AB speed. Can explosion strips shield off If I’m not careful getting out in time though, but half armor is the worst I got from rats so far.

Got out to Hjoramold the other day, theres Contested Minmatar Legendary Stronghold a COSMOS site. 40+50 respawning hackable cans, lots of respawning rats you have to kill while hacking. Wish there were more sites like that. Wish common data/relic sites escalated to guarded harder to scan and hack sites. Wish combat sites randomly had a can or 2 to hack. That’d be fun… for me.

[DeMichael_Crimson]

There’s actually quite a few different static Cosmos Complexes like that. Those sites are mainly for Cosmos Agent missions. The Agents and those Complexes are located in various High sec systems of the 4 main Empire Factions as well as in Low and Null sec too.

http://web.archive.org/web/20160503212020/http://hb3.info/cosmos/cosmos_complexlist.html

[Luigi_mon-de-sound]

In my experience the cans explode after the timer runs out, so unless you have proof like a video everything you have said debatable.

And yes I’ve done them before many times.

[Anderson_Geten]

he’s mixing cosmos sites (where you have to find a key in a can, 0.5% chance or smth like that) with ghost sites.

They have nothing in common but having cans to hack. 30 I think in the cosmos.

[Siegfried_Tahl]

@Siegfried_Tahl

I don’t warp in cloacked, I don’t use MWD, I go for special can first, still 3/4 times I do all 4 cans.

I run these sites in my combat exploration Phantasm, don’t have spare mid slot to fit a Cargo Scanner, so I go for special can first, as it usually holds half the sites loots, even though it may shorten time limit I go and grab it first. Traveling between cans is what taking most of the time in the site, and Phantasm has nice ~1400m/s AB speed. Can explosion strips shield off If I’m not careful getting out in time though, but half armor is the worst I got from rats so far.

This part is about Limited Covert Research sites aka highsec Ghost sites, we talk highsec, right? @Luigi_mon-de-sound In my experience cans do explode after timer runs out too. After, you know… sometimes its a half a minute to a minute after I left the site. What ship do you use? Do you mwd between cans?

@Siegfried_Tahl

Got out to Hjoramold the other day, theres Contested Minmatar Legendary Stronghold a COSMOS site. 40+50 respawning hackable cans, lots of respawning rats you have to kill while hacking. Wish there were more sites like that. Wish common data/relic sites escalated to guarded harder to scan and hack sites. Wish combat sites randomly had a can or 2 to hack. That’d be fun… for me.

This part is about COSMOS site I visited and found amusing, and expressed desire to see more like it elsewhere. Did it to stay on topic, cause ghost site discussion here seems a bit off. Those are separate paragraphs, I thought it will be clear enough that they describe different stuff.

[DeMichael_Crimson]

It was clear to me, I’ve completed both Cosmos and Ghost sites.

That’s why I left the link listing most of the Cosmos Complexes, in case you wanted to check out some of the other Complexes.

[Inovrin_Tain]

For lowsec I think Concord should be absent and not save you in the belts, but the gates and stations should have a few sentry guns that fire on aggressors. A “noob” or whatever would have to tank longer or evade or fight back to survive, but it would be a slower rescue from the NPC sentry guns than Concord. Also, if a bomb damages a gate in lowsec, the Navy should cyno in and kill the aggressor. These changes would make lowsec more palatable.