I dont understand
Wouldnt 1 Dread and 99 Lokis be better than 100 Lokis?
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@Ramona_McCandless …
as everything eve related, it depends.
but in general for random pvp gangs facing other pvp gangs.
1 dread and 99 lokis would be worse then 100 lokis, due to mobility and the fact that 100 lokis is 100 ships that are all stronger then capitals and really hard to catch. (so people wont even try)
whilst 1 dread on the fields only provides expensive space brick with a decent zkillboard kill-status, at the same time, it will slow down the lokis and also attracting a better formup.
@Algathas yeah i know, tell it to the people who try to debate me, its quite obvious thay are on drugs!
Seems tactically limited.
How many Lokis could 99 Lokis kill while that Dread is soaking the fire?
But if your point is remove Captials until they can be statted properly, I totally agree.
@Ramona_McCandless i dont know, perhaps you should make your own thread about it.
Why? All it would say is “Remove Captials Until They are Made Right”
Youve already started a thread about how badly implemented they are, why would I cause spam when we are in agreement?
@Ramona_McCandless becouse you- like many others in this thread, seems to interped my words in your own way, without any doubt or question, you pressume this and that…
i have never said capitals (unspecified,plural) is “wrong”, its really not my fault that you would think so.
im just saying,amongst many thing, that lokis (cruiser ships) are more powerful then dreds (capital ships).
this thread is not about changing anything at all, this thread is about stating my opinions.
you have your own agenda - so start your own thread.
No, most of my posts are questions trying to understand how the writer came to the conclusion they did.
So you are saying that Lokis are too powereful compared to Caps, but you don’t want anything done?
So you didnt say this:
Do I really? What is it then? If its diffeerent from yours, then you have a point. If Im agreeing with you or have to ask to understand your point better, then this thread is exactly the right place.
Im of the opinion that the persons posting threads like this not actually wanting to be understood or agreed with.
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@Ramona_McCandless i meant i dont want to “remake capitals” in the broader sense.
but ofcourse rebalancing is needed, the amount of spite i have gotten for simple insinuating that 100 lokis are all that is needed to dominate the grid… kinda proves this.
if i wanted to “redo” capitals, in the way i mean…
i would simply change range on either lokis or haw guns… or change tracking on cap-guns.
becouse cruisers ships, should not be able to outrange a capital ship, simple as that.
its not about something fancy “oh this and that means we hafto use our brainpower to come up with something that works…” just NO.
cruiser ships are ■■■■ compared to capitals, and it should show on the killboards.
Ah, the delicious tears of nullbears. If they aren’t whining about capital proliferation, they are whining about not being able to take on 137,000 subcap ships and win in said capital. Let me see, what else do we have here? AFK cloaky camping tears. Check. Wardec tears. Check. Yep, gang’s all here…
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@QuakeGod sorry my post has made you cry… ;(
there there little sadboi, perhaps your mother will give you a cookie.
As far as capital ships vs subcaps go, I’ll put it in terms that you can understand. You can be the biggest, baddest grizzly bear ever in the wild, but when you get surrounded by 100 timber wolves, you are still going down…
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The answer is simple.
Reintroduce Pre-Dreadnoughts; capitalships designed to operate with numerous ranges and capabilities, but are weak compared to other capitals in a straight fight.
@QuakeGod to put it terms that you can understand…
the biggest baddest grizzly bear will die i agree 100%… (unless it headshot the fc).
BUT the bear will most likley also inflict damage, maim, cripple and quite possible alphakill a few wolves.
a dred will not kill a single loki, it wont even scratch the paint.
@Ramona_McCandless yeah sure… unlesh the pre-dreds then, sounds fun.
they would be like what carriers are to supers?
Well I wouldnt want to compare to existing caps, but basically a dread with either weapons slots for smaller sized guns, or bonuses for various sub-cap weapons. The drawbacks would be not being as effecitive vs other Caps, either in defense or offence.
I think the shift in scale between the biggest subcap and the smallest cap is too wide without a class to bridge it and inform balanced fleets.
well… what ive gatherd a nerf to capital ehp is coming… so the obvious ez “fix” would simply be to improve the tracking of anti-cap guns or range of subcap guns
thus the “pre-dred” and the current gap between sub and cap, would become a bridged reality?
(and loki fanboys can stop REEEEEEE’ing on the forums?)
Really? Havent heard that but short of removal I guess its a start.
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Don’t believe Sabus.
My phoenix can hit out a good distance and apply damage to lokis no problem. Btw a phoenix is a dread just in case you didnt know.
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But dude, is it invulnerable to 100 Lokis?
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