What is Causing EVE to Die?

Is EvE actually dying?

:thinking:

Doubt.

Itā€™s dying reeeeaaaally slowly. But seriously, itā€™s this sort of BS that makes it more difficult for a newbie to settle in to the game. That and the whole ā€œcome join us, we do everythingā€ corps.

I think pubbie corps get their members killed, but new players donā€™t have to join them. Everyone is free to make their choice.

No, Chicken Licken has been saying the sky has been falling since forever, and here we still are.

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Chicken Licken???

Arenā€™t you the Vampire girl??

im thinking of fried chicken hereā€¦not something more vampy snack like here.

You do look like fried chicken

Satan loves chicken

LOL i see what you did thereā€¦

Those eyes, almost yellow trying to suspect bait me huh?

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Canā€™t fool you

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Eve has too many unfinished ideas and features that cause people to lose interest over time

  1. Mining: It is slow for an individual and people donā€™t have patience or time to sit in an asteroid belt for 8 or 10 hours and certainly not the 40+ hours just to get the materials for a single Battleship (not including the items you have to get from moon goo).
  2. Industry: When abundance ended and scarcity started and changed the blueprints with the idea that High sec, Low Sec, Null Sec and WH space would suddenly start trading with each other to produce stuff. I am sure that was a primary cause of the decline in people doing industry.
  3. War: The war system in Eve has never been good, not sure there is a good solution, but letā€™s say it doesnā€™t inspire risk taking for small groups. Any corporation/alliance under 100 active members canā€™t really deploy a structure, even if those members are willing to defend it, the playground bullies of Eve will just come and stomp on it or take your lunch money, so why deploy structures, too much hassle.
    Last point, we get all excited about getting new ships added to the Game for the first time in a while, while the Upwell ships was reasonably good, the Deathless ships which from looking over the in game stats look really good, but they a put behind a multi billion ISK item wall that only a small group realistically has access. They may as well be tournament ships (at least in the beginning). My point is that stuff like that can really put people off playing or investing time in a new feature or ship.
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Better questionā€¦

What is causing Eve players to complain on the forums about Eve dying, when it is obvious to all that is not the case.

Cheer up OP. It may seem one way to you, but in reality Eveā€™s playerbase is starting to grow again. We have had some great patches and more to come next year!

Why would you even bother? More time effective and fun to buy plex then get some catalysts, gank some miners and steal their stuff.

Itā€™s people who rarely log in to the game starting threads to rile up other people who rarely log into the game.

The more you know.

Mr Epeen :sunglasses:

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Yes. 100% agree. Iā€™ve seen that happen in other games as well. People who go on forums and donā€™t even have an active account or something.

Love the name btw, Mr Epeen lol nice

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There were a few good posts that deserved a reply, but I think I can sum it up.

The lack of challenge.

For the old farts like me, it was about outsmarting your opponent. That was the challenge. Not fighting NPCs. New farts (any of you who had kids can smell the difference :rofl: ) donā€™t seem to want that and CCP trying to balance it just doesnā€™t seem to work.

Oh, whales rule, player count suffersā€¦

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Iā€™m curious as to which challenges you feel have been removed?

Thereā€™s still ganking and wardecs in high sec, gate camps and blob summons in low, gangs owning and patrolling WH space, Null fights etc. There are more ways to earn ISK now I guess, but then, everything is 3-10X more expensive so that seems appropriate.

What challenged you 10-15 years that isnā€™t present today?

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I also have a corp history, just pointing out what can happen.

No I didnā€™t. I decided that I didnā€™t want to be in a corp full of alts. Some have been good and I still have them on my friend list.

So yes I have an attitude, real members over alts.

This exact same thing happens in another game I play. Everyone makes their own 4/8 man team to run all the high end dungeons, then never interact with anyone.

There used to be a queue system so you could jump in a group with others to try the run, but then players realised that by making their own team they didnā€™t have to wait, or hope others knew what to do.

Too many alts doesnā€™t help a game, or itā€™s players coming in to try it.

Its called old age, gets to us all eventually

Not if youā€™re a vampire

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Now Iā€™ve just got to create a corp with that name.

WDā€™ing null blks. Small corps.