Ironic coming from someone who had a forum meltdown because one of his many easy targets turned the tables on him and blew up his BC.
Mr Epeen 
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Oh, hi Mr Troll. Still trying to be relevant on the forums ? What âmeltdownâ ? I simply posted a thread asking a question. But it is typical of you to twist and distort everything.
Have you discovered the âUndockâ button yet ? Or gonna remain yet another of those forum warriors who snipes from the sidelines yet has zero evidence of ever even undocking ?
Iâd certainly have a meltdown if you left the forumsâŚas I need at least something to laugh at each day.
Plenty of angry miners here for our entertainment
I have never cried since joining the forum in 2009. You do it on the regular over three characters.
My favorite was you demanding CCP make every skin available at the price you want, when you want.
Mr Epeen
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Au contraire. You cry every time I postâŚhence your need to troll all the time.
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Hi, @Fatt_Albert I donât know anything about video games. EvE is my first MMO otherwise I played games like Candy Crush on my phone so my answer will not be useful for the topic except that maybe it will bring a new perspective.
I donât know what those are although they may not even be involved.
Is EvE really rotting though? 
I think the game isnât dying at all. I think it is right where the developers want it to be. It looks like there is a lot of changes being made so I think that CCP has forseen the loss of players and are betting on more players to come in when all the changes are done being made in a few years.
That is my opinion and more than likely it is wrong but I will stick to my guns on that. 
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Like you and all your other characters, Fatt Albert was a temp. Itâs long gone now.
Mr Epeen
When you undock you are agreeing to PVP. As you stated you lost everything. That is just an opportunity to build better.
As for being a new father. Welcome to the club. Your life has changed and will change yet again. When i was raising my son. I did not have time for games myself. Outside of occasionally playing a computer game. I was working and making weekends about him and my wife.
Games are time sinks as it is. There are casual games out there. Namely card games and that sort of wild excitement. Unless you want to carve out the time for any MMO. You are going to run into this problem of not getting anywhere as fast as other people.
For me gaming is how i choose to spend my time as a retiree. Though to be honest. Even then I still have to carve out time. Between taking care of my wife and doctor appointments. Some days can be hectic⌠LOL
Maybe for now this goes on the backburner as you raise help raise you child(ren). RL comes before any game. Games are time sinks. It depends on how you want to spend your time.
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This game has been dying for 12 years now. But joking aside CCP did face an existential crisis for real when they had to accept Pearl Abyss [PA] aid for financial help. Ironically, the sandbox MMO that PA has for their flagship game, Black Desert Online, has also faced large fluctuations in player population and continues having challenges with new players and retention. Theyâve been moving away from the sandbox model along with some unpopular changes with the hardcore player base and it has cost them. 2024 third quarter reporting, I heard went from $5M USD in 2023 to -$5M USD.
But I still applaud PA for their bold move to retain players and attract new players. For one, when the old staunch player base started flaming PA on social media (Youtube) for those changes, PA was slow to respond, but it got to the point that that base threatened and did leave the game which cost PA. PA responded by digging their heals in and did not cave to their demands.
Overall I think PA will recover but they didnât let a community hold them hostage; its like burning away dead wood. But I doubt CCP will follow suit, because theyâve been skirting the threshold for years now with high and low swings in their player base.
I suspect PA bought CCP for its China access. Or they have a plan to start up character based gameplay again. But do it properly this time.
Because the one thing they didnât do was spend $400,000,000 on a niche game that had long ago run out of steam and expect to make back their investment any time this century.
Mr Epeen
I thought CCP left Chinaâs market (ironically I am not referencing the Communist Chinese Party 
)?
But I doubt PA âboughtâ CCP for Chinaâs access. For one BDO has finally released in China and PA had to make huge concessions to open the game in China, changes that are reverberating into other continents, like NA and EU. For one China does not allow forced PvP in games there, which is a change thatâs caused PA to consider moving away from the sandbox MMO model else where.
I suspect that is why CCP left Chinaâs market in the first place; they didnât want to deal with the regulatorâs demands to change the game.
Secondly, isnât CCP introducing EVE Vanguard, an FPS, which might be character based?
Sure, but itâs not WIS. Which done right would rejuvenate EVE and open the game to a whole world of new subscribers. Along with massive monetization opportunities. Also, PA is one of the best at character design for the demographic willing to spend heavily on things like fashion, skins, emotes, dance moves, etc.
Mr Epeen
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Why? Seems like the first true statement from that poster.
Remember though that some people do things without learning anything in the process, thus even if such people play play video games (or do other things) doesnât mean they actually know anything about them, no matter since how long they play (or do) them. 
FTFY
- age
- new player joins and has no clue what to do, then they canât do anything appealing to them and forget out logging again
Well, the same happens here, however, in smaller steps trying to keep the existing player base.
Eve already died for many players because they cannot play âtheirâ game any more and eve turns into theme park.
Eve dies on a daily basis for new players as they expect a themepark mmo and soon find out it isnât there yet.
And this! lol, I am at the end of my lifespan myself
As I am active in Rookie Help channel I notice that many players are not willing to adapt to a different game style when they try out Eve, they want Eve to be like every other game they played. If ccp decides to cater for these people I am pretty sure Eve will die more quickly as the same people who demand eve to be like any other mmo will also jump to any other game without spilling a tear.
On a side note:
Youtube will love you for this. Knowing what you do not want to see makes your profile they are selling much more valuable
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This is weird. The post detailed what I lost. It wasnât the ISK value, it was the time, the station, the attachment to the Wormhole, the knowledge of it. The ability to enjoy a system that I considered âhomeâ, with a degree of risk that I was comfortable with, and could do so passively in the time I had.
And yes, I absolutely engaged in PVP, and I think when people caught me and killed me in WH space I had no problem with that. WH space is lawless, for sure, and you are in danger when you undock, which is why the rewards were higher.
Like I said, thereâs an irony here that what happened to me was just unfortunate timing. I had loaded that POS with defenses that would have made it very difficult for them to take it down, and it was a shame I never got an opportunity to defend it. I would perhaps argue that I would like to see some kind of external tool to ensure such âcombatâ isnât decided by unfortunate timing though.
But what I was making a broader point about, is that my own circumstances are just one example of how EVE works against players who arenât wholly bought into it. The mentality that simply undocking (of course, I did no such thing in my case) means youâre fair game, and that itâs not the playerâs choice to engage or not engage, means EVE loses players. People turn up and in their limited time, may want to engage or not. The fact that other players are able to dictate how they play the game makes it very difficult to call it a âsandboxâ game, rather itâs a game in which the actions of others can inhibit you from getting whatever satisfaction or experience you wanted.
I know some of you like to debate that until the ends of the earth and delude yourselves that those players were somehow fundamentally flawed and unworthy of being catered to, but itâs one of the primary reasons EVE loses players.
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Are you one of those people who hits the tilda key and enters âgod modeâ for every game ?
I mean, Iâd love to have the âchoiceâ to charge up the Normandy beach and not have a single German pill box fire at me in Medal Of Honour. Iâd love to play Doom 3 and have the âchoiceâ of not having any creepy things jump out. Or play chess and have the âchoiceâ of whether the opponent can take my pieces.
If people who complain that thereâs ânon consensualâ PvP in a PvP game feel like âleavingââŚits probably for the best.
I do find it odd that gankers do not need consent in high sec yet he thinks they should need his consent in a wormhole?
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