Yea yea yea, everyone blames the CSM instead of CCP. Please keep that train of thought.
You misunderstood
CCP to CSM
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Then please explain? Most posts are toxic so I have to assume the worst. Iām always ready to listen. I may not agree, but as as long as itās a responsible post. I do at least try to keep an open mind.
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I appreciate that, thank you for trying to keep an open mind. Unfortunately thereās no way to make these kinds of posts without coming across as toxic or overly salty 
I was more speaking on how do you have a whole council thatās supposed to help you know whatās going on in the community that you donāt listen to. Better off not having them and just ignoring the forums for the message it sends.
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Yeah, I donāt really hold the CSM to much accountable for a lot of things, I mean, they donāt really have any power to actually change things, just suggest stuff. Back with the monocle debacle when everyone was in an uproar and the CSM got flown up to the headquarters for a face to face meeting, they were told that EVE wasnāt going to be pay to win, they were assured of that. They came out and said they trusted CCP at their word. Fast forward a couple years later and you have skill injectors which is quite literally pay to win. Instead of taking months to be able to get into a hulk of dedicated training it is now a matter of a high credit limit and about 3 days.
I donāt blame the CSMās at all for that, they were pretty much lied to and played.
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I think most of Eve Players had felt like that they did something stupid in New Eden.
Example of my alt while afk in a Trig Invasion system while I was attending to my main on another window for like 5 mins.
That was my favorite AFKing
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oh noā¦ no no no man oh no 
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Bro, do you even play EVE if you donāt have a story like that lmao
Ugh. That one hurts
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You got me there. I cant prove they help, but if you have been on the forums as long as I, you would be surprised how much CCP does not listen to the CSM. Hell, lots of time CCP doesnāt even tell the CSM what their up to.
Getting used to it yet? 
Kinda like getting hit behind the knees in a hockey gameā¦
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Yeah like just disband them already and stop pretending. But hey Iād rather it be there than not, that way they have to go the long way around and lie about it if they want to sneak some ā ā ā ā like P2W in.
See if Eve Online only had TWO factions fighting each other, the game would become very un balanced.
Just my take on what happens in Nul etc and how itās a good thing to have super powers and lessor powers in New Eden.
Losing assets could become a question like were those assets required in the first place?
Just like you, I was way against the CSM way back when. Now Brisc got rid of the red dot. And thatās just recent. They do more good than harm if CCP would listen sometimesā¦
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I have to disagree with the argument that Skill Injectors are p2w, because they arenāt.
Just because you can fly a ship with skills injected, doesnāt mean you can fly the ship with in game skillsā¦
Thereās plenty of instances of skill injected ships by whales, lose to those who have more in game experience.
true, gone are the days of specialized characters and such. But injectors even by vets, are still not really pay to win, because thereās nothing to āwinā. The only way to win eve is to log out and not log back in.
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Sad, but true these daysā¦
Edit; Crap, unless your a bot it seems.
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āThe only way to win EVE is to never have installed it in the first placeā - Gandhi
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Perhaps i should ask CCP Falā¦ i mean Paul on twitter, how to win at eve 
Thatās just wrong. How would you have the passion for this game if you didnāt install it? I see your point, but I donāt mind the time Iāve lost for the game. Good friends now long gone, etc.
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Well for the most part Iād say the billion dollar BPās were bought and trained up themselves but youāre not wrong. Itās still crappy how they were did in even if it the assets were stolen. And Goonswarm Runs the game lol I looked up one of their battle reports against the people screwing with them now and they had half the ships and did 2x the damage in isk lol going into what @Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras was saying about how game skill > paid skill, but also going into my point of youāre taking people who donāt know how to fight like that and forcing them into lowsec.
Also @Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras It absolutely is pay to win but Iāll agree to disagree cause youāre not wrong. You can learn what to do in a couple of months rather than struggling for a couple years cause you arenāt cap stable in half your fittings LUL but I hear your point, though my rebuttal is even people who donāt know what theyāre doing only need to be lucky once.
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