When Did CCP Start Hiding Information? 💊

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When Did CCP Start Hiding Information? :pill:

I just noticed something odd. The “Description” on at least a couple of items now has text so tiny it might as well be written on a grain of rice. No human eye is reading that without zooming in like a spy satellite.

Here’s one example:

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The fine print reads:

“Quafe Zero is a product of the Quafe Company. Quafe does not condone the use of boosters or other illicit substances. The Quafe Company disavows responsibility for any side effects caused by consuming Sleeper technology.

Warning: Quafe Zero is designed for capsuleer use only. Side effects experienced by non-capsuleers include but are not limited to dizziness, blindness, nausea, internal hemorrhaging, IBS, sleepwalking, amnesia, sexual deviancy, vision changes, acute epidermal sloughing, partial or total loss of motor control, and minor skin rash.

Quafe Zero is manufactured in the Phoenix constellation.”

Is this new, or did I just miss it all these years?

Quafe Zero Green Apple has, “Note: Quafe Zero is a product of the Quafe Company. Quafe does not condone the use of boosters or other illicit substances. The Quafe Company disavows responsibility for any side effects caused by consuming technology developed from research into Sleeper, Drifter, Triglavian, Rogue Drone, and/or illegal, extralegal, ancient, or unknown technologies.

Warning: Quafe Zero is designed for capsuleer use only. Side effects experienced by non-capsuleers include but are not limited to dizziness, blindness, nausea, internal hemorrhaging, bowel irritation, sleepwalking, violent impulses, amnesia, sexual dysfunction, vision changes, acute epidermal sloughing, partial or total loss of motor control, and minor skin rash.”

In the same “hidden” format.

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So basically the same effect as reading too many of your posts.

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It’s this new-fangled thing they just invented called a joke. Perhaps you’ve not heard of it yet?

Or perhaps you’ve never in your life taken any medication, printed on the label of which in very tiny print are the horrible yet unlikely side effects that may befall the imbiber?

Or perhaps… perhaps… you have far too much time on your hands and are just desperate for something—anything—to complain about? Yep. That’s probably it.

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My reasoning could be wrong ( in fact it most likely is ) but when I found out that most of the important information on the game isn’t in the game but spread out between a dozen websites online I consider that “hiding information”.
The lack of an in-game encyclopedia reinforces that feeling.
And then there is these:

  1. Minimal in-client explanations.
    Mechanics like aggression timers, crimewatch nuances, wormhole effects, or how loot tables work are barely explained in-game. Players discover them through experimentation or by reading external resources… because the game itself is basically like: “Good luck, capsuleer. I believe in you. Sort of.”

2. The deliberately cryptic patch notes.
Updates sometimes mention things like: “Adjusted values related to certain ship behaviors.” Which usually means: “We changed something important, but you’ll have to undock and get shot at to figure out what.” EVE vets have learned to fear the phrase “various balance tweaks.”

3. Hidden or obfuscated NPC data.
Rats, mission waves, and spawn triggers often don’t have detailed official documentation. Players reverse-engineer it, spreadsheet it, wiki it, and argue about it like medieval monks debating scripture.

4. Industry & resource changes left to player discovery.
When regions shift production outputs, anomalies change spawn rates, or ore compositions get revised, CCP tends not to give full breakdowns. This fuels speculation, stock-market manipulation, and the occasional panic-buying spree that would make Wall Street proud.

5. The economy is a black box on purpose.
The in-game market is driven by players, and CCP rarely reveals deeper mechanics behind NPC sinks, faucets, and algorithmic behaviors. Players find out something changed when PLEX suddenly costs more than a decent used car.

6. Wormhole space: the land of “figure it out”.
Mass limits, spawn behaviors, and wandering mechanics are inconsistently explained. Wormholers have been doing science in the dark for a decade, and they’re weirdly proud of it.

7. Events with half-explained mechanics.
Some seasonal events are presented with lore teasers and tiny tooltips instead of actual rules. Players discover everything through trial, error, and panicked local chat messages.
So yes, CCP does hide information from players. It’s a purposeful game design.

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Maybe you can purchase an in-game magnifying glass in a New Eden Store™ near you. :thinking:

:magnifying_glass_tilted_left: :psyccp: :wink:

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This is some sort of a new thing. It looked perfectly fine the last time I checked that item. My guess is, this is just some typo-level mistake some intern or whoever it was that fiddled with that item (those items) last made. Somebody played around with the description and didn’t check if things looked okay after they were done with it. Just submit a bug report to CCP. Hopefully they’ll get around to it at some point, because it just looks hilariously incompetent.

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Per usual, no one has the answer…

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The list of horrible side effects then the “…and minor skin rash” :rofl:

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joke
/jōk/
noun

  1. Something said or done to evoke laughter or amusement, especially an amusing story with a punch line.

  2. A mischievous trick; a prank.

    played a joke on his roommate.

  3. Something that is of ludicrously poor quality.

    Their delivery service is a joke.

  4. Something not to be taken seriously; a triviality.

    The accident was no joke.

  5. An object of amusement or laughter; a laughingstock.

    His loud tie was the joke of the office.

Have you never seen a useless warning label on a package, like the one that says “causes cancer” on tobacco products?

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The fine print was first observed in the Apple Quafe Zeros. It’s symptomatic for modern CCP, for CCPs failure of a new UI and for their development quality.

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Yes, it’s CCP’s failure that they expected people to get the f*cking joke, nothing more.

Skip next month’s Omega and go buy yourself a sense of humor.

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Oh please, spare us the Dollar-Store stand-up routine. If CCP’s idea of a joke is microscopic text, then your idea of humor must be whatever’s left rattling around in that empty pod of yours. Maybe instead of telling people to buy a sense of humor, you should invest in a pair of working eyes and a brain cell that knows how to use them.

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After your Cranial Extraction surgery, you should ask the doctors to give you a sense of humor as well.

If you can’t see the joke in putting a flavor text disclaimer in small print, then the problem is entirely you.

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I prefer the warnings on the Quafe bottles that used to be at Fanfest:

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Quafe also contains kacha root extract from the mountains of Manesh on the Amarr planet of Athra. It is not recommended for people with green eyes, pointy elbows, scraggly beards or short, child-like teeth.

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I just asked if it was new or if I had missed it.

I don’t see why you’re so “up in arms” about this…

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Gimme a break. If your ‘joke’ relies on microscopic text and a cranial surgery fantasy to land, then it’s not humor — it’s insecurity wearing sarcasm like a cheap coat.
But hey, if you ever upgrade from edgy forum one-liners to actual wit, I promise I’ll pretend to be impressed.

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CCP has been “hiding” information for us to discover in game since 2003, nothing new here. This particular item has been like this since it was introduced, it’s been years…

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You’re the one butthurt over some small text. Don’t project your problems onto me.

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Yes, I’m the one that got the joke and isn’t crying about it, so clearly I’m the issue here.

Okay, whatever helps you cope.

:rofl: