Only difference is that physical people are easily verifiable
Virtual, not so much
Inb4 Salvos
I saw that from a mile away
You still havnât answered my question:
âDo you think NS new character attrition is majority genuine new players. or established player alts?â
Kind of.
Its more a mix of J. Haidt style dog wagging and poor reasoning. But gut feelings do play their role!
Bugger off
Kthxbai
Certainly from what we see here.
We might disagree wrt CCP. They may not be accurate because they are not precise, but they may still have a good approximate.
PlayersâŚnot so much. Or, their numbers are good by accident rather than methodology.
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The discussion there is fine , the only reason you got nothing from it was your needlessl adversarial combattitivnes* and general being an ass.
You were invited on the strength of your recent posting and the assumption you could have a reasonable discussion without acting the maggot.
When the lads pointed out that you were in fact being an ass you promptly threw a hissy and left.
If you want me to get the others in here to verify that I will.
That discord has been going for over a year now and that was the first time weâve had any toxicity in there.
(not a word I know)
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the end of the discussion is simply thus: EVE has risks. you dont get anywhere in this game if you dont take risks. New players need to realise that the moment they do anything like undocking or jumping into another system, joining a corps or whatever⌠there is a chance that they will dieâŚDEAL WITH IT.
ive been playing since 2011. this is my newest character. back then i got blown away almost daily but i didnt quit. i talked to my CEO âwhy are these guys harrasing me?â he responds with "did you go through that losec system i told you not to? âyesâŚâ i replied. and thats when new bro me years ago realised that my actions define my experience. TO all you new brosâŚYOUR CHOICES DEFINE YOUR EXPERIANCE. its not the other guys fault you screwed up.
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Thats â â â â â â â â . I was addressed with toxicity and nonsense right from the start when I entered it.
That channel, despite its longevity as you claim, has achieved nothing, and harbors/incubates/defends shitposters like Dom.
I dunno why you canât see the the extant âtoxicityâ already there.
I merely responded to it in equal measure, and then decided the channel is already compromised and just not worth it.
If you smell shite everywhere ,
check your shoes salvos.
I thought you were better than this crap.
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this is beginning to seem more like a personal problem on his part.
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It is in American English.
âGadget the Maven
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Crap was thrown at me the second I stepped into the channel, even on otherwise benign statements.
I dont understand how you dont see how subverted the channel already is.
Certain shitposters are âallowedâ, but if someone calls them on it and goes at them in equal or greater measure, they are stigmatized.
clearly you have issues. i have the perfect solution. cut all ties with them and join a new group. start blocking people in game and mute this post. when people started hating on me way back when i just blocked them and muted themâŚfunny storyâŚi had half my alliance blocked at one point.i
i mean if its that much of an issue then just leave it behind you. life is to short to get your panties in a bunch overâŚlolâŚvideo game drama.
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And what have you achieved? 
So everyone in there is a shitposter? Nah
Everyone is agreeing with each other. And those who disagree still do so respectfully.
Yep, same. Hence why I extended the invitation in the first place.
He canât. Has to salvosh the thread for good.
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Must have been pretty quiet at that point 
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was it ever. all the drama was silenced and i could actually enjoy what i was doing.
Same â â â â is happening here, now.
And still none of the persons I have asked a rational, reasonable question of, has answered it.
that or your not being rational. i gave you âthe perfect solutionâ. go make friends somewhere else and stop whining. i mean this is totally pointless.
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Yes, it is pointless, because they are here too.
Look at the posts above.
Ask a regular whom are the top ten shitposters, and you will find consensus not only here, but in their presence in the discord channel as well.