Man I miss CP2020 so bad right now 
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You bring something up. Someone calls you out on it. You decide to “leave it there”. Great idea.
Ganking is very unbalanced.
Two different things. Ganking is too easy.
What are you smoking?
Show me a cheap fit to gank a Tornado on a gate in HS that will work before CONCORD wrecks you.
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In what way? Im not sure you know the steps involved, because the only thing thats easy is claiming it without anything to back it up.
i don’t think I brought something up. It’s not my way, generally. I did point out some weaknesses in an earlier post (yours, perhaps?), and of course that lead to a digression, of sorts.
I’ve learned over the years to realise when my efforts are being wasted, and thus to terminate unprofitable time investments (I’m trying to sort out a nasty audio glitch in my laptop atm…).
If you wish to continue, be my guest! I can be reached in-game in the usual way, or, if you’d prefer, you can start another ‘nerf-ganking’ thread (which will undoubtedly go the way of its predecessors).
Up to you x123xxx.
That’s irrelevant, since botting isn’t a sanctioned gameplay activity. I’m evaluating the viability/merits of ideas from the gameplay perspective alone. Botting to get around gameplay is an external consideration, and should be considered separately.
No, they’d still go criminal, they’d just go criminal after their target dies.
Basically I want to create an engagement layer that allows for players to engage gankers without the gankers being destroyed by CONCORD automatically (because then the player engagement is pointless). If the gank target fights back, then CONCORD doesn’t come (the target decides whether they want to attempt deterring the gank to try to save their own ship in exchange for the gankers not receiving an automatic death penalty). Otherwise, CONCORD comes upon the activation of a distress beacon, or upon the death of the target (but the target doesn’t fight back, so its odds of destruction are higher).
I’m going beyond that in order to address various edge cases and inconsistencies in the system.
One thing I’d like to see is theft resulting in war eligibility. Right now, you can steal someone’s items and then instantly dock to wait out the suspect timer. This effectively results in a lack of consequences for theft in certain cases. If thieves are flagged for war, then it’s possible to actually do something about them from a game/RP perspective.
That said, to balance things out, the war eligibility can be toward only the theft victim’s corporation, and not universal.
Are you speaking from personal experience? Did this happen to you?
I would say it forces a change in their self-perception against their will. They have two choices: disregard what they believe about their self or disregard what they just came to realize. And, remember that the first stage of grief is denial.
Their response should be no surprise . . . except to an idiot. 
As I said they hug the gate, so if you shoot them they just press jump and boom they are safe.
Getting under guns is only if you tackle them away from gate which they will never put them selves in that position. Also if you shoot them you yourself cannot jump the gate and chase them.
Obviously alt’s will work but not everyone has alts.
I have many many more hours of pvp experience than you, so don’t claim I do not understand pvp.
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You are almost convincing me, this line of thought could end up in something actually good for EVE.
And that’s fine. A gank nado that isn’t in position to gank, isn’t ganking. Which is also a win.
How so?
? There are a ton. Also why would you do it solo? You realize you just use ganker tactics bring 3 peeps, nado dead.
I mean you can just say you suck at fitting ships 
You realize the same rules govern them as well as you? If they are in a 0.5, CONCORD will come later. Giving you more time. Gank nados literally have no tank. They will melt to concentrated DPS, even catas LOL.
And as a bonus, once you gank them, CONCORD comes in. Thus keeping the gate safe for peeps to warp thru while CONCORD is on grid.
Holy quafe. You really suck at this game huh?
I’ll post some fits for you when I get home
And? You still win because now they are out of position. You guys really don’t understand PvP huh?
LOL. You realize you can close in perfectly fine until you decide to blap right? Cause if they shoot first, they get CONCORDed and you win regardless.
If they jump before you engage, you also win because you’ve forced them out of position and now able to pursue.
If you gank, and they jump, CONCORD Is now on grid, protecting that side of the gate to let people through.
Right. So get friends bro. It’s an MMO.
I doubt that considering the ignorance you’ve displayed here Zkills isn’t everything bro I didn’t even post to zkills until I was forced to when I joined RIFTA
You don’t understand PvP and you don’t understand HS PvP. Ganking/AGing is under a very different rule set from low and everywhere else.
It is very apparent ya’ll understand nothing about tactics and positioning.
Isn’t surprising tho
Wow your mind is a mystery, I don’t even feel like wasting my time arguing with an illogical being.
You sir are just a troll one that has no idea what he is talking about and for that there is only one obvious solution:
Block
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Mmm that isn’t it
Love the excuse making tho.
You can at least have the dignity to admit you got ROFLcoptered with facts
So if the enemy tornado is on gate and you come in a blaster harpy you activate a kill right on them they go flashy red and then imidiately jump the gate they are now out of position?
How does that help you, you cannot jump after them to exploit them being out of position, If I had an alt on the other side sure but I’m 1 pilot I will not waste my time with tornado’s and their cowardly ways.
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.
Again no idea what you are talking about, they do none of these things, they simply ignore you they don’t do anything except for sit on the gate and wait for a hauler or something to come passed they will not shoot your pvp ship, they are scared shitless of any actual pvp.
I agree with your post up to this point.
I don’t think a simple line member without any corporation roles should have the power to drag their entire corporation into a war. In EVE it would be too simple to infiltrate a war-immune corporation and make it no longer war-immune from the inside out.
This wouldn’t work out well, unless there are some extra checks, like an advance warning that 'player X of the corporation engaged in criminal acts and will enable war declarations to the corporation within 24 hours unless player X is kicked before that time’.
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Yes? If they were on that gate camping for a reason LOL.
ROFL. I don’t know what I’m talking about? You can’t even get one friend to help you
It ain’t my fault you’re obviously anti social and can’t lay a good trap LOL.
Cowardly ways? LOL. Its so cute how you are so emotionally invested in pixels
If they ignore you then good, as you’re able to get into position and secure the blap
They’d defintiely shoot you if you were blinged out with officer mods
Here’s the thing bruv, your elitism makes me giggle as well as your refusal to understand PvP fully.
I’m sure you think the height of PvP is dueling at the sun. When in reality, good PvP is where you’re alive or your goal is attained and your target is burning in space.
You have a child’s view of PvP.
What’s funny is you have the solution, you just refuse to use it
@Destiny_Corrupted how the CONCORD response time would end up in the case which the target doesn’t fight back?
Let’s say at Uedama a target dies in 18 seconds, the pilot didn’t fight back in anyway since it had no agressive modules. How long it will take for CONCORD to come?
We are missing 6 seconds here and the “eevol gwankers” just became criminal, will CONCORD respond in 6 seconds so it will match 18+6=24 seconds? Or a new timer would start having 24s on top of those 18 seconds? So they would be concorded after 18+24=42 seconds? That would be enough time to kill the target plus all kill whores or even do a second gank, a second gank is fine.
At the ore belt this would be interesting because it would allow to kill multiple afk barges. New style of ganking:
What is the chance of this being CCP and EVE community approved? I think it’s zero percent for the whole set of ideas.
I think the distress signal thing could be approved, but the scenario in which if the targets fight back then no CONCORD would come would never be approved.
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Obviously it would be a corporate setting (just like “friendly fire”).
CONCORD would come right after the target dies. I think it would be fine to keep mechanics in place that effectively limit ganking to one target per timer, with the possibility of initially attempting ganks on multiple targets at the same time, which may or may not work.
Zero percent, plus at least 3 real-life death threats in my inbox.
Then there’s no point because no actual change is being made. The intent is to basically allow gankers to guarantee ganks against AFK targets unless outside parties intervene, and to allow players to selectively turn gank attempts into sanctioned combat. If they’re hitting the distress signal, then they don’t have the intent to try to fight, so they shouldn’t be rewarded with free leech kill mails.
Also, any kills with CONCORD on them shouldn’t generate kill mails. Or rather, they should list CONCORD as the only party, and delete all other player participation (thereby turning them into NPC kill mails).
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In every way. I tried it. I bought a Catalyst in Jita, went straight to the Ice Field in Kamio and killed an Endurance worth 102,4m ISK. It took me all of five minutes and cost me 10.79m ISK. Does that sound hard?
Fair enough, I feel the same way. Consider the matter dropped.
That’s the funniest idea that I’ve heard lately.
100% Good answer. That and, “You sir are just a troll one that has no idea what he is talking about and for that there is only one obvious solution: Block”.
Sounds overly dramatic. Do they have your personal information or are they just keyboard warriors?
One gameplay style will disapear completely that is killing any gankers for lowering their dps and then surviving a few seconds more until CONCORD arrives, that possibility will be gone forever.
One thing that would add something is removing Faction Police from the player structures grid (stations and pocos) that would allow fights around the stations, that would help in wars. I absolutely hate Faction Police, in the past I used them as if they web alts but I lost some ships this year.
edit: so if new possibilities of war decs come by, there will be some fighting to do on grids related to the corporation
Did you secure the loot? If you did it solo, there’s no way you got the loot LOL.
Also I’m betting he was AFK
Also you straight lying cause the only thing this char of yours has lost ever is a pod in 2010.
So either drop the kill mail or retract kthx