I’ve had alphas hang with me, they can’t wait to get into ships above their experience (injector time) you try to warn them to take it easy and learn the ships you are able to fly right now before they go jumping into anything expensive or beyond what they know about the game.
they don’t listen, which is cool, we all gotta learn somehow. they usually die a lot to PVE and PVP, a few weeks later, they come to you and it usually goes something like this.
Hey man can we talk, i think i need to go back to frigates for a while and learn how to fly first, what i should engage or not, what ships are good for PVE and PVP.
how to fit my ship for what i intend to use it for and just get my head around the situational awareness, it’s a lot to take in.
i agree with them and give the same advice as i did when we first met.
the SP injection helped with being able to learn the new bigger toys, but they soon reverted to show me the basics when they’ve pumped enough cash into their heads thinking it’s a magical fix and they’ll be on par with people when infact it doesn’t.
i see it like this: i do whatever i like to
others do other stuff they like to
i dont htink about why ccp is doing what they are doing … they add something … cool
they take something out … ok happens
i dont think about that stuff much … i read what they give out as info … if there is no info … ok whatever
i guess we all care about the game but the game is what the gae is … dont make yourself a hard life … enjoy it … enjoy eve … enjoy beer … enjoy sitting in the sun and have good food … hey life is to short
sorry if i was to offensive and btw other could understand
Yeah I’m not the kind of stoner guy who gives a ■■■■ about nothing. If I see something wrong with something I care about I try to address the issue in the hopes that the situation can be salvaged and also that the people who are in charge actually have a chance to react because they know what their customers think.
Yes, EVE is a game and just a hobby. But why is it wrong to care about something you enjoy in your free time? If the beer you enjoy so much would get more and more diluted over time and they would start to put stickers with ads on the glass to try to sell you some fancier glass for some additional money, would you still … just enjoy it… and don’t care man… because… life is short… ?
I’m sorry, but I find that attitude pretty stupid and weak.
What stats? There are a ton of different stats that matter on a ship on implants in SP depending on the situation, what ship you are in, what the other guy is flying, how fast he currently is, how close… So yes, the stats matter, but what stats matter and when is something only a pilot with experience knows.
This is not a game with one line of ships and linear progression, it is a vastly complicated game with hundreds of different ships and modules which all matter in different situations. To know about all this options and when what stats matter is extremely more important than the slight boost some lvl V skill gives you.
If they’re absolutely insignificant then how can they matter?
Obviously you’re still up to your old posting tactics of constantly twisting things around. I never said this thread didn’t interest me, especially if you were actually going to quit.
For the record, I said I was tired of the side convo where you so called PvP experts kept moving the goal post around in a feeble attempt to prove yourself right.
Anyway, this thread topic has derailed and should be locked since the OP is nothing more than a rant.
I already explained it to you. They are insignificant in a PvP fight because there are a ton of other factors are far more important. They matter because they let you access more tools and ships and give slight bonuses to stuff, but not in a way that they are super important to win a fight
I’m not sure why someone like you and Salvos who clearly only do PvE have such a hard time accepting a statement from multiple PvP players, about PvP, a domain they know obviously more than you. Do you think we try to mislead you here on purpose or something? Or do you think like Salvos that you can somehow create an argument for your uninformed position out of thin air by playing with words or quote mining?
Look, maybe I was a bit too harsh, but I still see no value in this discussion. Just take a step back, assess how much fun you actually have playing the game and make a decision based on that.
Asking some randos on the internet to convince you to keep playing is asinine. What if we are sucessful? Will you keep playing, even if it turns out EVE isn’t fun anymore for you?
No, that’s not obvious at all. And that was a 2v1, both ships had ‘better stats’, and both pilots are older than me in the game with more SP. I’ve also killed plenty of ships with better stats in 1v1, and frequently fight outgunned and outnumbered, and win. Here’s me in an Executioner, killing a Slicer, as another example. 1v1 vs ship with better stats. And in case you think that’s an interceptor I’m using, feel free to check the killmail in the description and see for yourself. I lose a fair few too, but the ones I win are the result of superior skill and firepower, not superior ship stats. I’m also not the only person who does this.
I dont think that is going to go away.
You yourself chose to make extensive use of it.
That you did so, shows you supported/endorsed it by action, even as your mouth was saying no.
Some might call that hypocritical.
My issue was with this statement:
It was and remains false.
The following 200posts have been trying shoehorn exceptions/caveats into that statement to protect Remiel from owning up.
The whole point of SP, is to improve performance/stats, and to access content gated by SP (such as ships/modules/implants etc).
And now, one more time for Salvos, who seems to think behaving like a brick wall means he can ignore facts…
Performance and stats don’t matter if you don’t know how to apply them. This isn’t an exception to a rule, it’s a rule unto itself, demonstrable in this game, in many other games, and in all walks of competition in the real world. There isn’t just a small selection of examples, there are many. Your complete and utter lack of experience in the field of competition in general is probably to blame for your ignorance on the matter, but we can blame your continued wilful ignorance when things are set straight for you on the fact that you’re just an intellectually dishonest charlatan. It would not surprise me in the least to discover you sold snake oil in a past life.
