A mistake made and speaking in the height of anger

I heard hello kitty island adventure is working on a new expansion with unicorns.

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Council of Stellar Management - basically a player-elected group of player-advisors to devs.

I said ESO lol get it right.

I don’t think it’s out of bounds. There are all sorts of ways to earn in the game. This kind of thing is exciting for me, and I don’t believe for a second that it’s not something that can be protected against

YES! \o/


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your vote doesn’t count anyways, as there are nowhere near as many pilots in any sort of a coalition that could put someone onto the csm anywhere other than null that I know of at this time. why let someone who only plays with a handful of ppl onto the csm - ccp wants ppl that can get a lot of info from a large player base to help ccp improve the game, or change its designs to fit their needs.

people might say ā– ā– ā– ā–  all the time, but the people I associate with know the difference between ā– ā– ā– ā–  talking and threatening harm… maybe you should have a look at how the ppl in your life are really affecting you.

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Do you know why the CSM exists?

I as a outsider didn’t really see a threat as just someone that was mad and i cant say i would not be mad to seems they were setting a trap for him.

Tangent: EULAs have limits. They have to, because in the walls and walls of text you click through for every single install of every single program you use (dozens or hundreds), nobody ever knows what exactly they sign away when they click ā€œI want to use this thing everyone else is and it’s not really negotiable anyway.ā€ Or: the ā€œacceptā€ button. There’s a reason laws exist about what an EULA can hold you to, like… the game can’t force you to sign over all your RL funds or your first-born.

Except, this wasn’t a question of ā€œdid he fail to follow asinine line 12345 of long document nobody can reasonably be expected to read all the way through and can be changed at a moment’s notice anyway?ā€ so much as ā€œdid he do a no-no which is illegal in most places for very good and well-documented reasons?ā€

Why? What has anyone said to me?

All I’ve expressed is a view that a permaban on all his accounts was a bit much given the circumstance. How does that suddenly mean people in my life talk about or threaten harm?

They don’t by the way and having such a strong reaction to someone just having a slightly different opinion to you is a bit weird.

he threatened harm to a real person in the real world. this is outside the game - in the real world. do you think that is okay, and should be normal in our society? ie do you think it would be okay for someone to threaten to cut off your hands then seek info on how to find you?

maybe instead of threating to harm his person, gigx instead said I’m gonna geet soo many of your frozen corpses I can start a harem wouldn’t have broken any of the rules, but he chose to threaten a real person outside of the game… see the diff yet?

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I still want to know what made him switch sides? douse anyone know him so he can post his reasons?

Nah, it’s not okay. But I think context is important. The internet’s a scary place where there’s a lot of people who are mean for no reason. This person had a reason to be upset, somebody mentioned they aren’t on the same continent, and it sounds like he realizes that what he said was wrong and already - the day this happened - has made an apology. I think those are important things to note

But who gets to make these judgements? Judges and police, or the owners of corporations?

And if it is going to be the owners of corporations, need they be consistent in their ethics?

or, can they sell a game for its brutal lack of rules, and then police their customers as though they are some kind of saintly collection of decent human beings?

Do you want to be told what to wear to church by a prostitute?

The abuse of man by man is actively celebrated and promoted by CCP at every opportunity, so long as it happens inside their game. They encourage it in people, and they do so for money.

When it escapes into the wider world, they choose to sit in judgment and blame their customers lack of morality.

It is difficult to enjoy, is what it is.

somebody posted this earlier, it has a statement from the guy who did it. https://imperium.news/csm-metagame-aryth-flips-judge/

Sorry for your struggles.

What law was broken? This is why space lawyering is stupid. Unless, in this case, you are in law enforcement or criminal justice in Serbia, you can’t really give any authoritative opinion whether a law has been broken.

Apologized after he was banned, after saying he didn’t give a ā– ā– ā– ā–  he was banned, and continued to threaten the judge on the INN stream after it happened. Gigx had every opportunity to try resolving things peacefully, or even in a way that wasn’t threatening violence on someone over a videogame, and he only showed remorse after his actions finally caught up with him.

You can check Reddit for his version, but my understanding is that he was fed up with gigx and his leadership style. According to him, ā€œAryth offered an out and I took it.ā€ He got over a trillion in isk, and that includes the 300b for the Keepstar.

You don’t have to look much further than that. He wasn’t bribed with real money. He wasn’t brainwashed. He knew gigx was a terrible alliance leader and that was it.

laws are different everywhere, where I live planning to harm someone is an indictable offense. maybe the laws are different where gigx lives so in fact he didn’t break any laws. but the fact that gigx does not have the common sense to keep fight club in the game and wants to threaten someone breaks CCP’s eula. and at their discretion they have issued a permaban. how would it look if they said hay, permaban is too strong after all the publicity good or bad this is getting. i’d think they’d have to stay the course as gigx is doing nothing to imply any remorse for the words he has stated.

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