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Next Test: Budget sniper -> Navy Omen between 100-200mil

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First Test Tier 4 Elec:

Wave 1: swarm no aoe towers to use so burnt directly away and started poping, they went to 0 velocity so not sure if I would have been able to track them well, I think it would have been fine thou as I was hitting the first 2 while they where moving.

Wave 2: 6 Drifter cruiser’s + Drifter BS Kited on the edge of the arena (Arena edge is very difficult to see while using mwd you only see it once your really close) out of the bs range for most of the fight while shooting the cruiser’s then approached the bs to get in range, it was doing massive damage from far so tried to come closer to get better transversal on it, ran out of cap turned mwd off hoping I had been close enough to keep transversal up with my lower sig but the bs was still hitting for massive damage and I popped.

To counter will try with 5 light dps drone’s + 5 tracking disruptor drone’s for next round.

Second Test Tier 4 Elec (swapped 1 set of drones for tracking disruptor and swaped exile booster to mindflood.)

Wave 1: swarm Flew to the aoe tower it didnt work it just laughed at me while it trolled me, quickly burned out of range again as all the frig’s had closed and started to apply some e-war, in a really bad spot but managed to burn away again, strugling to hit the frig’s with beam’s so I scimmed the edges of the arena while matching my speed to the frig’s to try get the transversal as low as posible finally managed to kill them.

Wave 2: Drifter frig’s + 1 Drifter BS, man as I appeared into the room those frig’s wasted no time in burning by the time I was aligned away and burning the frig’s where already 20km away, was missing every shot so took both drugs drop+mindflood because this was going to get rough. Luckily no side effect’s finally managed to kill most of the frig’s by flying through the +300Sig cloud but man did that bs hit me hard while flying through there… Didn’t want to risk flying through again to kill the 1 last surviving frig so burnt into range of the bs and placed all 5 tracking disruptor drone’s on it, and it seemed to work so left that 1 frig alive and started shooting the bs it was landing every 2nd hit but the drifter frig got cheaky and started shooting off the tracking disruptor drone… then it all went to hell the bs was doing massive damage again and dead.

To counter… I think a hac is needed for the lower sig during mwd… Doubt I can get a navy omen to finish this…

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I also feel the triglavian battleships need some balancing. Got welped by 8 of these in a tier 4 Raging Gamma Filament. only managed to kill 1. This is the fit + drugs. also had the following implants.

These triglavian BS spawns are currently unbeatable.

[Eagle, Eagle]
Assault Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Large Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery
10MN Afterburner II
Large Shield Booster II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Stasis Webifier II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Heavy Ion Blaster II
Heavy Ion Blaster II
Heavy Ion Blaster II
Heavy Ion Blaster II
Heavy Ion Blaster II

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II

Null M x6199
Nanite Repair Paste x227
Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M x5030
Antipharmakon Thureo x4
Antipharmakon Iokira x4
Agency ‘Pyrolancea’ DB5 Dose II x2

EO-603
MR-703
MH-803
SS-903
HG-1003

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Now some gila issues after running a few tier 5 gamma rays back to back even tho i didn’t find the trig bs spawn i have a strategy for it so i don’t think they would’ve done much to change my site completion or kill the gila.

SO gila issues:the gamma ray weather is too much of a buff,the ship is a very niche type of tank yes but the weather makes it basicly invulnerable in there if you have 2 brain cells to rub together.

To make the matter more frustrating we have on the other side t2 ships like hacs which are not coming nearly as close in other weather paterns or this same patern because the weather doesn’t buff them in such a specific and impactful way.
Firestorm may be an attempt to act similarly but armor doesn’t regen i can’t make a passive no cap regen armor tank.
Furthermore the gila drones are just impervious to supressors they don’t rly do anything to them high shield drones like minmatar ones facetank supressors and drone swarm agro no problems,any attempts to affect drone ships are hurting the vexor hulls way more than the gila here(i saw the new funky structure stats not very keen on it)
A fair solution here if you don’t want gamma ray to become gila farming playground all the way to tier 5 is to take away that shield hp bonus,if the gila is to do it’s thing with the passive tank it has to do it without weather buffs or you won’t hear the end of the gila is OP meme.

UPDATE:found a trig bs spawn finaly 9 bss 2 dampener 4 neuts the 4 neut ones did a great job on reducing my mobility while the damp ones forced me to commit closer without cap to run back out of their optimal range the group managed to break the tank.

A small issue here is it took about 4-5 sites to encounter this spawn and among my loot was a leshak bpc now had this been tranquility ship plus pod would’ve set me back some odd 500mil but the leshak would’ve made it worthwhile so losing that particular gila had no big negative impact gains were higher than the loss.

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I tried the Gila in Tier5 Gamma.

No bling. 2 x LSE, 2 x Invul, Battery, MWD, T2 Shield rigs (2 x CDFE, 1 x CDFP), DCU, 2 x DDA.

If you have a Drone Spawn without the Drone Killer Tower, the Gila Drones help you to get things done much quicker than I’ve had it with any Turrets yet.

1st room
Drone Spawn without any structures.
Pretty straight forward. Fly around and kill them. For some reason only ever one of them attacked my drones. With an Ishtar I normally had their entire spawn go after my small drones in about 10-20 seconds.

2nd room
9 Triglavian Battleships. 1 of them Neuting (from 60km, dry despite Battery in 3 cycles). 3 of them damping.
Now the damping was really the issue, as my lock range didn’t allow any moves at first. I slowboated away from them, launched my drones. The tank was stable at that point.
Finally one of the BS attacked my Drones, which got them active. The BS spread out and came closer, damage increasing, damps still on me, not good. Luckily the Neut BS came close enough first and so I could take the biggest danger off the field. After that using my Invuls and trying to keep transversal up, I only ever went down to 30% Shields.
It’s not as easy as ‘drop drones and orbit at 50’. I mean it is not super hard, but you need manual piloting and make good decisions, cycle mods here and there. A bit too close too early could have cost the fight here.

3rd room
Drone Spawn with drone killer tower
The 9 BS took me quite some time, due to the damping and need to survive, so I was down to 3 minutes for the last room. MWD really paid off in that regard.
Easy, go to structure, drop drones, watch my Valkyries face tank the structures while together they evaporate the Drone Swarm.
Burn to exit, 30s on the clock. Done.
Had I had a 2nd Drone Spawn without help from the structure, time would have run out though.

@Dark_Engraver I agree the Gila (passive) is pretty strong here, probably stronger than any of the other Cruisers. It runs into cap issues, but if I had replaced the Battery for a Cap Booster, more than one Neut BS would have been manageable. It is not a no-brainer, but certainly feels much safer than any other ship I’ve taken into a Gamma Tier5 so far.
Compared to the HP + Shield Regen it is much easier than Firestorm with the Armor Bonus.
Gila in Gamma Tier5 is compareable with Ishtar in Exotic Tier5, albeit less work and better damage mitigation.

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yea atleast the trig bs spawn can blow it up

The damps on those bss hint forcing towards a brawl but I’m not feeling the desire to commit given their tracking and neuts.

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The problem is not the site’s thou it’s the gila it’s an absolute monster of a ship. But then again if the gila is the only thing that can reliably finish c5 maybe we shouldn’t be complaining and just use the broken ship lol.

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[Cerberus, Cerberus]
Missile Guidance Enhancer II
Assault Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster
EM Ward Amplifier II
Small Capacitor Booster II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II

Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst II

Navy Cap Booster 400 x40
Scourge Fury Light Missile x1874

Went through an exotic particle field tier5 in that 2 rooms were drone swarm but 3rd room was trig cruiser spawn 2 neut cruisers 1 neut frig.2 vedmaks ended up dying to 1 ammo clip and 3 light drones other 2 died on the next clip i basicly finished the dps ships with 2 asb charges left no crystal implants no hardwirings just a standard blue pill

Another exotic particle storm for the cerb this time something tougher to chew through…

!st room vedmak group again 3-4 demavik 2 neut vedmak 2 normal vedmak again same strategy as before a full clip ended 2 vedmaks before they had any chance to cause damage i actualy broke off and made a point to see if i could beat the entire spawn in a more fancy way-ENTIRE vedmak group died without me needing to use the asb thanks to some fancy driving and them going after my poor 3 hobgoblins,i did pulse the adcu twice in the fight so i wouldn’t dip into armor all in all rlml cerb is a monster at vedmak engagements.

2nd room drone bs quickly dispatched the support then chewed on the bs while using a tight orbit with mwd on full time.

3rd room drone bs again same strategy as room 2

finished site with 2 mins 30 sec left also looted everything

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So mwd kiting really is king against Triglavian’s the problem will come in against 10 BS spawn thou when they can shoot till the edge of the arena.

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fury rlml cerb range is 79 trig bs is 63 i dont see a problem time will be an issue how much dodging in and out will be needed but once i know how many missiles per bs it’ll be fire and forget.hopefuly!^^

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The barrier is usually close to the 60km mark from them thou and if they move toward’s you they are closing the gap between their range and the edge of the boundry will need some fancy flying around the barrier.

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As far as missile counting with that fit in exotic particle storm i got to the following:

3 volley 1 dmg drone
2volley 1 ewar drone
1volley 1 logi drone
8-10 volley 1 vedmak
4 volley 1 drifter cruiser

With some implants might work in different sites too needs testing but sisi is down just now

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Hopefully some more changes :smiley:, really want to try a mwd zealot I think it might be great but think it’ll cap out quick :slight_smile:

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So go mwd injector Web for mids

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Id prefer keeping thing’s further than 10km’s xD but I guess when those 3km/s tri frig’s come after me ill need it.

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I found that a web is always welcomed in these sites
Anyways will try to test some navy cruisers tomorrow in tier 3 and 4 o7

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@CCP_Paradox and everyone

What do you guys think about the differences between tiers? Are they clear enough? Do they need to be clearly defined or not?

After running various tiers of the same types, I could roughly say that 5 is harder than 3, 4 is harder than 2 and so on. The difference between 4 and 5 at least feels pretty clear as well, but personally I couldn’t say the same about the differences between 1 and 2 or 2 and 3. That’s probably different for everyone and depends on what each player perceives as difficult or challenging.

Just putting this out as a question. How do others feel about that?

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The devs need to get some newbs in here for the first 2 tiers. An experienced player/character wouldn’t see a difference between 1 and 2, other than things having more HP and hitting a little harder. 3 is a big jump up. However, i bet a newb would surely see the difference between 1 and 2.

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tier 3 omen navy issue electrical storm:

Room 1 drone swarm no issues killed everything quite fast they had a ton of web drones which kind of spooked me along with new names

Room 2 drifters i didn’t allow them to get close enough but by naming convention i asume they were warp scrambler fit(nulwarp) the drifter bs took some absurb shots at me not even missing while trying to aproach at transversal eventualy i made it within 10km with like 5% armor left:/

Room 3 NEW SPAWN: triglavian drone controller group they had 3 vedmaks and about 3 demaviks along whith them a full overview of tiny drones they controlled(maybe 30-35) I proceeded to run away at the start not knowing how hard the tiny drones may hit and to try and blow them up got 1 or 2 rest got closer and became impossible to track without commiting to that so i gave up and went with my original plan as in SHOOT THE VEDMAK,now apart from shooting it more by accident than anything else i happened to run out of the arena with all the tiny drones after me about half of them exploded at once to abysal space damage while i goofed around missing tackle once or twice on a vedmak eventualy geting my guy and starting to kill them one by one.When 1 ship died a portion of drones stoped working no doubt the controlling ships drones,now the ships themselves also had their own beam weapon not as powerful as the older vedmak group we know but combined with the drones i ended up in near structure.All the ships moved about as fast as the previous demaviks/vedmaks there were no neuts on this spawn atleast.One last thing it wasn’t required to clean the tiny inert drones to go through the gate.

[Omen Navy Issue, ]
Medium Armor Repairer II
Damage Control II
Heat Sink II
Tracking Enhancer II
Heat Sink II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Armor Explosive Hardener II

50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Stasis Webifier II
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I

Heavy Pulse Laser II
Heavy Pulse Laser II
Heavy Pulse Laser II
Heavy Pulse Laser II

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Energy Locus Coordinator II
Medium Energy Locus Coordinator II

Infiltrator II x2

Conflagration M x8
Imperial Navy Multifrequency M x8
Scorch M x8
Navy Cap Booster 800 x4
Imperial Navy Standard M x8
Nanite Repair Paste x500

No implants standard exile pill only

Another tier3 electrical storm same ship.

First room vedmak drone control group I went again after the ships fight went ok i didn’t exit the arena to clear drones this time still it all went alright.

second room vedmak rush group they had 2 vedmaks 4 demaviks 3 of those were td demaviks,after trying unsuccesfuly to get tackle on one vedmak i decided to break off and reset their dmg as i was losing hp quite fast after regaining some hp went back in for another tackle attempt got it but because of the tds the vedmak i was shooting kept dodging the odd hit here and there eventualy being commited to the fight and not being able to finish the 1st vedmak got me killed.

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About the naming conventions for the rats so far i like it altho encountered only 1 drone swarm i asume each dmg type has a different name the triglavian frigs and cruiser names are intuitive:ghosting-ewar,tangling-tackle,striking-dmg

tier 5 exotic in cerb

Room 1 drone swarm no issues

Room 2 drifter bs group got poked a few times by the bs but didnt have to use an entire asb until the cruisers died

Room 3 drifter bs group same as above however timerwise i ended up cuting bit close with 30sec to go when i hit the gate despite not wasting any time.

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Currently the amount of Mutaplasmids dropping is far too low in all tiers of sites.

(and Ship BPC droprate might be a tad too high)

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