He has 100% refuted every argument you have made, not to mention that allowing caps into high sec would destroy the market value of minerals, driving down prices which is NOT a good thing.
What’s funny is you think just because you are right, you are.
When CCP allows caps back into high sec, eve online’s new player retention will drop to 0%
Just lol. Oh btw, LT is our new alliance… 0_o
Also let’s look at this. You were enver part of GS, so stop lieing
So you go to Gallente space and hide behind SICO and it’s numbers. Your members awxo their members (before you join their alliance) regardless of blue standings.
So with this in mind as a “ceo”. You feel you are qualified to talk about game changing mechanics when you can’t even lead a corporation based out of high sec without screwing up as a leader every month?
Pot - Kettle - Black - Blacker than night - Blacker than a wormhole
Ironic? Irony? No, just plain imcompetence.
Just another thought.
If we allow caps in high sec, we need cynos, so they will have to be allowed
So black ops can use cov ops cynos as well yah?
Also t2 bs pilots and faction bs pilots getting one shotted on undock by cheap fitted dreads and loosing billions.
Also to tackle super capitals we need bubbles so we would need to allow dictors and anchorable bubbles, which will be abused to hell by trolls
Or maybe ud like a single frigate to be able to tackle a super cap? Do you even understand the MASSIVE game changing mechanics that would need to be done.
So the entire eve community who get trolled and slammed into drag bubbles all day long will hate you.
The entire level 4 mission running community will hate you.
ICANP would fold faster than a wet tissue covered in puke
But yeh go ahead, this will be funny as hell watching peopl,e gank ur members left n right cause of you 
This is the absolute dumbest suggestion I’ve ever seen, sure… Let caps come into highsec and destroy citadels solo, let rorquals mine out asteroid belts taking income away from new players and destroy the mineral economy even further. Seems perfectly logical to me.
How dare you question the word of Sabus, our lord and master, you blasphemer! Jesus shall rain down lumps of gold on you fool!
I’m for Everything should be allowed everywhere. I say let it be.
He has 100% refuted every argument you have made
Not really
allowing caps into high sec would destroy the market value of minerals, driving down prices which is NOT a good thing.
The reason mineral prices are going down is because of excess production, cheaper ships is not exactly a bad thing, you can go and fit up cheap hulls and have fun for a cheaper price. If your concerned about prices going down advocate for conflict generators, but cheaper stuff is good. Unless you like the old 2003 400m isk a battleship days.
Also let’s look at this. You were enver part of GS, so stop lieing
- You couldn’t lead your corp in a WH without getting your stations blown up.
- You couldn’t lead your corp in high sec without getting your stations blown up.
- You couldn’t lead your corp in null sec without letting in awoxers who caused 37bil worth of dmg and then told to GTFO because your corp couldn’t run simply API tests,
- You couldn’t lead your corp in low sec without getting kicked out.
- You and your diretors steal billions every month in corp taxes with no “maybe we shouldn’t do this”
So you go to Gallente space and hide behind SICO and it’s numbers. Your members awxo their members (before you join their alliance) regardless of blue standings.
So with this in mind as a “ceo”. You feel you are qualified to talk about game changing mechanics when you can’t even lead a corporation based out of high sec without screwing up as a leader every month?
Considering how easy as a newbie it is to get into karmafleet, I’d say you are incorrect. Either way my prior membership in Goonswarm has no relevance that I see to this discussion. As for your ‘oh you keep blowing up you suck’ argument, it’s called playing the game, having a good time, and learning. Who cares what delusions you have, wanna believe I’m a corp thief go right ahead, I must’ve stolen about 60 trillion isk by now right?
You feel you are qualified to talk about game changing mechanics when you can’t even lead a corporation based out of high sec without screwing up as a leader every month?
Yup, that makes me more than qualified.
Just another thought.
If we allow caps in high sec, we need cynos, so they will have to be allowed
So black ops can use cov ops cynos as well yah?
Also t2 bs pilots and faction bs pilots getting one shotted on undock by cheap fitted dreads and loosing billions.
Also to tackle super capitals we need bubbles so we would need to allow dictors and anchorable bubbles, which will be abused to hell by trolls
Or maybe ud like a single frigate to be able to tackle a super cap? Do you even understand the MASSIVE game changing mechanics that would need to be done.
So the entire eve community who get trolled and slammed into drag bubbles all day long will hate you.
The entire level 4 mission running community will hate you.
ICANP would fold faster than a wet tissue covered in pukeBut yeh go ahead, this will be funny as hell watching peopl,e gank ur members left n right cause of you
Clearly you have not read this thread in its entirety. I already mentioned that I do not want cynos in highsec, mentioned that super weapons can be banned, and no time did I mention I want bubbles in highsec. Only change will be the ships themselves are able to take gates, no other mechanic is changed. They can still use fighters and weapons, but bubbles/superweapons are disabled as they are now, as are cynos.
I’m for Everything should be allowed everywhere. I say let it be.
Agreed
Dude did someone spike your eggnog? How can rorquals driving down mineral prices in HS be a good thing? HS corps that pay for themselves via moon mining would get butthumped so hard by rorqual’s stuffing themselves full of moon goo. The markets would absolutely collapse because of oversupply, it’s basic damn economics.
hahahaha
You are so dumb, Super capitals cannot be tackled other than using dictors so…
hahahaha
He doesn’t get that at all, Emperor Sabus wants Rorq fleets at his commond bud, all hail the emperor
Not chiming in the overall conversation between you two, but I wanted to point something out: now that capital ships can take gates, there’d be no need for cynos in hisec if we allowed capital ships to operate there. They could jump out to cynos lit in low/null, sure, but in hisec they’d be stuck taking gates like peasants.
I’ve seen a few different proposals to allow capital ships in hisec (and even have one of my own floating about still), but I can’t recall seeing any that call for hisec cynos, not even the topic at hand.
It still begets the point. That allowing this to happen would be pointless. the ramifications to the economy would be devestating. he just can’t see past his dream of a fleet of rorqs mining in high sec, he wants all the content of null sec without the risks
RISK VS REWARD - period, there is no other argument and this thread is pointless. If you want to fly caps, go to null/low/wh’s - it’s that simple
Not trying to derail this topic (I tried to get it merged with mine months ago, but CCP didn’t reply), but go give the topic I linked a read. It’s an interesting counterpoint to the discussion going on here.
I wholly agree that unrestricted access to hisec for all capital ships would be a horrible idea. Too many game mechanics would break and the balance of power would permanently shift in favor of large blocs. But more limited access for lower-tier capital ships with certain risks associated with it may be an interesting change.
We have low tier capital ships in high sec, the Orca. It’s just silly this thread. Null Sec is “end game” content or as end game in eve as you can be which is to say not at all, it’s just silly this idea. It’s always been Risk vs reward and it always will be
I’m a fan of this notion myself, and when I proposed tweaking capital ship access, I did it in a way that either A) rewards hard work or B) offers a lot of risk to pilots. You either need very high faction standings to enter hisec in a capital ship (dread or carrier only) or you go suspect and faction NPCs start shooting you.
But over time my underlying rationale has become more economic in nature. The EvE economy exists in a state of perpetual accretion; more stuff gets built than gets blown up, so massive stockpiles of everything just build up over time. There are various ways to combat this (no pun intended) and one is to offer more opportunity to blow things up. So, allowing certain capital ships (dreads and carriers only) into certain regions of hisec (0.7 and lower) in a way that makes operating them risky (perpetual suspect or having earned high faction standings) would provide more opportunity for capital ship losses and help, hopefully, deplete some of the massive stockpiles of capital ships laying around New Eden.
But there are limits. Rorqs in hisec would just completely throw off the industrial and economic balance of the game, Titans and Supers come with far to many modules and mechanics that aren’t compatible with hisec, and allowing capitals everywhere (especially trade hubs like Jita, Amarr, etc.) would be a nightmare. I’m on the fence about FAXes; they’re the same overall “tier” as carriers, but allowing them in hisec would all but force folks to use dreads to assault structures, and I don’t want that.
We share a lot of the same concerns, but I see some opportunity to poke around the edges of what would be game-breaking and maybe create some new content.
Seriously, I cover this in much more detail in my other thread.
I would agree should you be a constant suspect in high sec as a capital pilot and that if you undocked you had to wait 15 minutes before being able to re-dock making it a real risk to use them.
But then this would go against the “choice of a criminal act” and if its a criminal act to fly one, were is concord and does the navy shoot u as well?
So many questions and i dont have the asnwers
I would love it.
CCP please!