Alpha clone suicide ganking - plague of EVE

“X mission rewards are too low for the amount of time it takes to run it” or “torpedoes do too little damage compared to other short-range battleship weapons and need to be tuned” is feedback.

“All non-consensual PvP that has been one of EVE’s core features since the beginning needs to be removed from the game immediately” is not feedback, but petulant, entitled whining.

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Believing that feedback I dislike shouldn’t exist is no different from believing that a game feature you dislike shouldn’t exist. If people have the entitlement to come in here and voice their opinions/make demands about changing the fundamental nature of the game, I’m likewise entitled to think that they are “invaders” that function no differently from locusts that swarm in on healthy crops, consume everything down to the root, and then move on to the next fertile field to ruin.

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Destiny, I don’t know why you bother engaging with Scot anymore. He’s been given tons of reason at this point and all he ever does is repeat the same “nope”, “you never gave me reasons”, “they have no argument”, and it’s old at this point. Deny deny deny. Somehow turn that into “I am right”. It’s a formula designed to exhaust everyone else.

The best we get to do is turn him into the ghost of “View 1 Hidden Reply” past.

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I don’t know where you’re getting this from, since I never expressed the sentiment that people shouldn’t be allowed to voice their opinions.

The rational counterpoints have already been repeated ad nauseam.

Feel free to provide some examples, of which I’m sure you have plenty.

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I am sorry for doubting you hours ago when assuming you too were one of those.
I see now how you and Destiny are in alignment with some agreement from reading Destiny’s reply to Lucas.

It was sort of warm and welcoming to wake up to that on the forum today.

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Simple Solution:

Lock Security Button for Alpha Accounts in HiSec!

  • Don’t like to be ganked by Alphas? Go to HiSec.
  • You are Alpha and don’t like it? Go to Low-/Nullsec or buy Omega.

Simpler Solution:

Don’t lock Security Button for Alpha Accounts in HiSec!

  • Don’t like to be ganked by Alphas? Tough.
  • You are Alpha and like it? Good, keep on ganking.
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Not everyone.

Yup. Sound advice. Him and his known alts

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Not simpler, worse (and we already have that)
That simply gives Narcissists/Sociopaths a free of charge Stage with a “zero Risk/High reward” Scenario.
I’m ok with that… as long as they have to buy a ticket for that with real Cash! ← Win for CCP and EvE Online.

First you say I crap on core principles, then you say I don’t defend them.

Just choose one angle and stick with it already. It’s getting really hard to track all of your flip-flopping.

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I do, with the credit card.

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I totally agree with Ax’l that your tactic is that of the crybully. Any disagreement with your supreme correctness about absolutely everything is treated as ‘personal attack’. This isn’t the modus operandi of someone who wants, as they claim, a ‘discussion’. It is the modus operandi of a forum bully who seeks to silence all dissent by sly resort to martyr mode and treating any disagreement as an ‘attack’.

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No. If what someone says is nonsense then I call it such. Some aspects may be personal opinion but a good deal of the debate can be underlain with actual facts. For example it is a fact that more noob Ventures are destroyed in highsec by NPCs than by gankers. The problem is that you just ignore the facts…certainly those that do not fit your narrative.

I cannot ‘agree to disagree’ on things that are facts. I can see how its an extremely useful meme for you to get round disagreeable facts…but an apple is an apple and not an orange whether you personally ‘agree’ or not.

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if I hadn’t seen it, I would never have believed that you can write and create so much about a game that doesn’t even exist…

Somehow that sounds good. I love mayhem.

That doesn’t sound good. There should always be consequences or it would feel like playing a PvE game with cheats on.

It looks like the message went through. I don’t know if it was a smart move but the consequences should not take long to manifest. It should be interesting. God I’m so curious my middle name may as well be Cat.

that account you have says it does

Your funny! :grinning:

No…we…didn’t. Your response to any disagreeable fact is invariably ‘so what ?’ and an attempt to make out that you covered something that you actually just brushed under the carpet.

A complete red herring of a question. As the issue is whether a noob can recover from loss, what conceivable difference does it make whether that loss was caused by an NPC or a player ? It is quite ridiculous that you feel the need to get into some absurd philosophical argument in order to evade the simple FACT that NPCs kill more noobs than gankers do.

As always, you have not ‘covered’ the issue…you’ve just evaded it and then tried to pretend that you got past it.

You are probably one of the most utterly dishonest debaters I have ever come across…and that takes quite some doing.

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This is a blatant lie, there were discords CCP devs participated in, and there were Focus Groups runned by CCP that included many war dec groups…most of the wardeccr’s are gone, and groups like PIRAT and Public Enemy folded after these changes.

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