Bittervets vs carebears: Wardec rebalance edition

You are welcome.

I don’t wardec so I don’t mind if I can or cannot wardec whatever type of player. Why would I complain about it? I complain about someone claiming “everyone is equally wardeccable” this was wrong so he drew the attention away from his wrong assumption.

Really, the comment before was most correct. (Sorry I didn’t quote because it was a while ago. x.x)

This changes nothing, because the wardec’ers just need to poke at the wardec button a few times and confirm their desired target has a structure somewhere. People will have the option to not be wardec’d but that doesn’t stop suicide gankers from ruining their mining op or delivery job. and it restricts them to this tiny pocket of unprofitable space. Because it is unprofitable unless you have structures… So no structures means no isk, no isk means they go to lowsec and nullsec. Then you don’t need a war to freefire. thecircleoflife.gif

Wardec corps wardec to get the kills. Most of them don’t get paid to do anything, so they’re picking on big targets with lots of people who will make silly mistakes like flying through major trade routes while under a war. That’s really the end of their strategic theory for picking a target.

People like Balos here are just going to find the next thing they don’t feel is fair to their delicate sensibilities and cry about it too. This is a cycle we’ve seen for ages.

IMO, CCP tossed around the idea of straight removing wardecs so they could rebalance and update them. This change seems like an interim and a compromise to that, I expect it to change again soon. I hope the next change is creative and thinks of something we haven’t really thought up yet. Wars are unbalanced, not just for small timer bears, though. I think the original intention of wars was to keep them as one-offs for strategic value more than mass production of wartargets from the comfort of the Jita Pipe. I do expect that mechanic to change, I expect the war corps to have to find something else to do with their time or pick their targets way more carefully. But the trick is making it so that people actually USE the war system still… take a look at the bounty system after they “fixed it” and you’ll see my point.

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I dislike this change. It goes directly against what Eve is supposed to be. The entire reason I was drawn into to playing Eve is because of the possibility of being destroyed at any point in time no matter where I am in space. People who want to farm mats or grind in 100% safety can go play literally ANY other mmo. People like me who want to do so while having to pay at least a tiny of attention or having a chance for a little excitement have no where else to go. Why is CCP so keen on taking this away?

High sec shouldn’t be as unsafe as low sec of course but mining fleets should not be 100% immune to any kind of non-gimmicky/suicidal aggression. High sec is too safe as it is now. Low sec would surely see more activity if the amount of safety between high sec and low sec wasn’t so vast.

Is there anything we as a community can do to stop this “Strictly PVE Zone” direction the game is taking? Due to the direction the game is taking I can see my days playing Eve are probably numbered. How would you guys feel about having a carebear server where pvp mechanics are limited as well as a normal server that stays true to the spirit of what Eve is supposed to be. This legitimately saddens me as I know of no other games that could possibly replace Eve for me. There must be something we can do. :sob:

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I don’t think they should change it based on you owning a structure alone it should be based on how many skills your corporation

it should cost so much to put the wardec and maybe lock it to whatever would match up with each other instead of them coming in with battleships if you guys can only fly Cruisers or you coming in with Cruisers and they’re only able to fly frigate class ships there has to be a balance somewhere

I don’t think structures alone is the balance the bigger the corporations are in the bigger the alliances together the more the wardec cost for them to if you’re over a thousand members it should automatically be something like 40 billion or more depending on your player base that way they wouldn’t just engage for the hell of it and kicks they would have a purpose when they spend that kind of cash

You don’t like EVE, otherwise you wouldn’t want to kill it so adamantly.

Back on topic, again, CCP knows precisely what they’re doing here. That’s not fanboying, I’ve been giving CCP a lot of ■■■■ recently for some decisions they’ve made over the past few years, I’ve been very critical of them. But here… I know what they’re doing, and I’m on board with it.

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Oh Irony…

YOUR EVE is not EVE…your were just told its this way but nothing could be further from the truth…

PVP is not the centre of the world not in any other mmog and not in EVE…get used to this fact…

The change would not kill “EVE”…just the way YOU think it has to be…and your inability to give space to PVE just proves me right…

Does it not come to your attention that all those decision CCP made just point into one single direction?

Directly into the mailstream maelstrom…

Coincidence?

I don’t think so Tim…

You have no clue, you don’t know the game. The epicentre of Eve are social interactions. PVP or PVE or whatever you want to call them are just mechanics to make the interface more interesting than twitter.

It’s no interaction…it’s a prey vs predator relationship in which the prey has no space to hide…

Equality?

Go to another game…eve is not for you…

And people are following this advice exactly…they just leave…because they have enough of one group constantly spoiled…

Equality is BS. My spiked club on your face is an interaction, and you can decide to avoid it, to srike back or whine on forums. You don’t like that? We don’t give a damn. You leave maggot.

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If you don’t give a dam than you will be forced to do…

PA ONLY wants the 11 year out of control looking for the latest loot boxes kid with dad’s credit card in hand…

And now PA in property of CCP they CAN AND WILL convert EVE into exactly THAT,just don’t listen to propaganda crap like “nothing changes”…this is just to calm down people 'til the big bang comes aroud the corner…

BS, forced by what, your will? PA bought a veldspar mining simulator, the only thing that cement the whole crap are people made shenanigans. You remove that and there’s nothing left.

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If you’re going to try and talk :poop: about people, 2 pieces of advice

Either make sure they won’t see it, or tag them if you have the testicular fortitude

That Azbel wasn’t a gank.
We didn’t kill a player.
We killed an uncontrolled structure.

Ganking involves many players killing less numerous amounts of players.

Get your facts straight :slight_smile:

That “NEW EVE” would be a crappy game, like hundred of others.
A game for dumb, brainless people… where you have to follow the given paths, where you dont need use the thing called brain.
The reality is, it will become such a crap…
Just look the real world… the idiocracy is coming over us in big steps.

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You mean you don’t seeing it coming wipes it out of existence?

Well that will not happen at all…i mean you can continue to state it,but it will not happen you will not stop the coming changes by ignoring and/or insisting they are not on the agenda if they are so obvious…
You just have to lift the propaganda curtain a little bit…

Again taunting will not prevent the changes…you can kill the messenger but you will not wipe out the reality…

Reading problems? or comprehension maybe

Just me beeing correct and others not beeing able to face the reality…this is in no way my problem…

Nobody reads you because you start your post with insults.