Blowing off steam?

[Archer_en_Tilavine]

When I read this post, I thought to myself “Wow, sounds like you’re part of a group with highly ignorant, inexperienced leadership who is ‘teaching’ said ignorance and bad practices to their newbies, and you have become a victim of their stupidity by engaging in boring activities, incurring losses, and not mastering the game” - most of which is not your fault.

@Nisse_Keikira

Every member has a corvette with a tried and true fitting.

This is one of the saddest, most pathetic things I’ve ever read in all of New Eden. I mean, there several things in the post that make me but that one really stuck out at me. Not criticizing you, just the environment in which you’ve operated in as created by corp leadership. You really should find a new corp, one that will actually teach you the game properly and allow you to spread your wings.

I remember once someone posted a “guide” to the forums with horrendously bad advice that was a great disservice to anyone who read it. @Destiny_Corrupted (who responded earlier in this thread) issued a fantastic reply to that thread, which I’ve bookmarked as a “Best of EVE Forums” post, and whose commentary basically applies to the leadership of your corp based on what you’ve said.

@Destiny_Corrupted

Okay, time for some “real talk”.

I’ve mentioned in other threads/posts about how I infiltrate carebear corporations as part of my activities. OP’s advice is exactly like the advice that new players get in those environments. You won’t believe what kind of rubbish I’ve seen get fed to new players. Anything from “stay docked if there are Goons in local” to “make sure to fit a few of each turret size so that you can engage enemies of all sizes.” And the worst part is that this advice comes from players who have been playing for years - the kind of players who have been around for a while, but see running high-sec mining/mission-running corporations as the pinnacle of achievement. Usually, they’re very power-hungry and controlling, but impotent. You know exactly the type of people I’m talking about.

The real reason why this game has such low retention isn’t because of ganking, or wars, or scamming, as the “anti-griefer” camp always claims; it’s because new players get fed a bunch of asinine ■■■■■■■■ from carebear corp executives that completely fucks up their gameplay. They get started off on this path that never leads to any rewards for their efforts, and results in no meaningful progression. So what happens? They get bored, burned out, and disenchanted with the game, which results in them quitting. Permanently quitting , because this isn’t the same thing as “taking a break” after having played for a while. The game leaves a bitter taste in their mouths, and they want nothing to do with it. This is a natural reaction, and one for which I don’t blame them . They started playing a new game, put their trust in people who advertised themselves as “helping new players” and running “newbie-friendly” corporations, and got set up for failure. Meanwhile, the new players I’ve convinced to join PvP “academy” groups, or at the very least major new-player training organizations such as Brave, are flying in fleets and doing anomalies and wormhole sites for income just weeks into the game.

If you want to help new players, steer them away from carebear rubbish. When you see some blowhard teaching newbies to mine in Ventures, call them out on the spot. Wardec them, or gank them, as quickly as possible. Drag them out of their homes, and publicly execute them right in front of their Athanors while the rest watch. Don’t relent until they’re beaten into the ground, and relegate themselves to semi-AFK, solo mining in NPC corporations. You will be doing EVE, and its new players, a massive favor.

(I should probably quote this more often, so many posts “deserve” this commentary.)

For what it’s worth, I’ll toss you a bone: mission running is by no means the best EVE has to offer, but it’s a lot funner/safer/profitable than what you’ve been doing and can still be done in a relatively passive/semi-AFK fashion if so desired. If you’d like to get paid to run missions, I’m the Co-Head of the United Standings Improvement Agency [USIA], and we hire and pay mission runners handsomely to run missions they were probably already planning on running anyway. You don’t have to join our (unofficial) corp to work for us, but whether or not you join us or some other corp, as a member of our tight-knit community, we can teach you the ways of EVE while giving you some more experience and a fat wad of ISK with which to spread your wings and invest in your future. If you’d like to discuss future, I look forward to speaking with you on the USIA Discord server.