Broker Relations

Does not change a thing.

Good, because there is no problem in that price range to begin with.

Then increase sales tax, donā€™t tax interacting with the market before an item has even been transferred.

shrug. The exact mechanism doesnā€™t really matter to me. And this implementation does help with botting, by making stupid bots bankrupt themselves.

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Having Broker Fees at NPC station at 3% after grinding all the standings and skills compared to 1% effort free at player owned station feels deeply unfair, especially if when is applied multiple times through relist fees.

Yes, I am referring to Perimeter-Jita relationship where most items traded physically reside in Jita but BUY orders placed remotely from Perimeter (1-jump range ones) enjoy smaller Broker Fees.

That means 2% advantage for players operating from Perimeter, with zero effort investment.

Iā€™d like to see base broker fees reduced to 1%. That will still be some minuscule advantage to POS markets as 10 standings is not possible to reach, 9.x is the realistic maximum.
To compensate that sales tax can be increased by the same 2%, though that will hit people selling to BUY orders.

And the thing stopping you from putting your own buy orders in Perimeter isā€¦ ?

brain.

And the thing that makes this good/interesting game design is?

Different question. I was answering someone complaining about unfair advantage. That was simply wrong.

To answer your question: because CCP wants to push most market activity into player-owned stations ā€“ stations that can be attacked, or you can lose access to, etc. NPC stations are too safe. So if you want to camp out in an NPC station, you can ā€“ itā€™ll just be expensive.

No itā€™s not. Heā€™s right that itā€™s unfair advantage.

That was literally CCP saying ā€œUSE IT USE IT YOU WILL MAKE PROFITā€ so they made citadel market more interesting.

Itā€™s not an unfair advantage if itā€™s equally available to anyone who wants to use it.

Itā€™s not. You need to be accepted by the ownerā€™s corporation.

To answer your question: because CCP wants to push most market activity into player-owned stations ā€“ stations that can be attacked, or you can lose access to, etc. NPC stations are too safe. So if you want to camp out in an NPC station, you can ā€“ itā€™ll just be expensive.

But that isnā€™t what is happening. The majority of goods never leave Jita. People just set the buy order from a station (most of) the goods never end up in and sell them in Jita again because it has better trading volume.

That is true. In the specific case of Tranquility Trading in Perimeter, however, itā€™s open to nearly everyone, AFAIK.

Yes, that is how buy/sell orders work. So what?

It does not change that the mechanism allows to be unfair.
Also itā€™s literally CCP trying to push people out of Jita. Thatā€™s why itā€™s actually unfair, because CCP is tweaking the mechanism to give an advantage to the TTT by construction.

So that makes an imba/unfair mechanism. The broker fee should be the same if you buy in jita from jita, or in jita from perimeter.

CCP trying adjust the game to move the bulk of trading out of NPC stations is not ā€œunfairā€. You may think itā€™s a bad idea; you may not like it; but itā€™s not unfair.

And thereā€™s no compelling reason the broker fee should be the same everywhere. The point of a market is that you can chase different balances of cost/risk/reward. Want to be perfectly safe at all times? Do all your trading completely within NPC stations, and pay the higher cost.

Willing to risk your orders and assets in a player-owned station? Go for it. In return for the higher risk, you get the lower cost.

Put in the time to join (or be friendly to) a group that has itself put in the time to dominate trading in a particular area? Reap the rewards through lower costs.

None of that is ā€œunfairā€ in an overall game sense.

You are not risking anything in TTT.
Thatā€™s where your argument is sour.

But neither is your competition, as there is no real barrier to trading in TTT. First you use the fact that TTT is an outlier to dismiss it, now youā€™re trying to use TTT to prove a point. Is TTT an outlier or not?

So your argument of market activity being pushed to player owned stations just isnā€™t true.