No, it’s used to prevent capital ships from entering warp. How is that griefing? That is just PvP.
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Bumping should stay. Bumping for 15+ minutes with no way to escape needs to go.
To be fair from what I have witnessed bumping is just used to scram freighters long enough to suicide gank them. There is nothing wrong with that.
Bumping for a long period of time to extract tears or extortion needs to go. There is no reason to prevent someone from playing the game just because you feel like it.
To be short.
Bumping to prep for a gank is fine if under 15 minutes.
Bumping off a belt for resource denial is fine.
Bumping because you want to cause grief needs to be removed.
To fix this all CCP needs to do is make it possible to warp after the 15 minute mark of no aggression. Or give orcas and freighters the ability to warp if there no points on them.
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The only thing one could complain about with bumping is that it doesn’t do much. It doesn’t destroy or create anything and only wastes people’s time. But why shouldn’t we have something in game as harmless as bumping?
What bumping is being used for should not matter, because anything that’s bad gets used for being bad, as well as anything good gets used for being good. That’s just the way of the sandbox.
It obviously takes skill to bump someone and it wastes their time as much as it waste the time of the other pilot. So the only reason for why one would change bumping is to make it waste more time or less time.
Personally I’m all for less waste of time. Perhaps one could reduce the max speed of ships by a fraction each time these bump to make the time loss worse for both (a bump would cause a temporary engine failure) and punish both pilots for wasting time by causing them even more time loss. As a side effect I suppose would this means that a freighter pilot could eventually warp away as the bumper, too, losses max velocity. Bumping capitals that are trying to escape a bubble would still work as intended, and help with keeping them inside of it.
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Please provide proof that is from an academic and not a popular source. Otherwise keep your opinions to yourself.
I think that’s a case of media pollution, terrible events make good headlines.
Just as in any other cross-section of society law enforcement contains people good and bad, corrupt and honest; some serve the public, some let the power go to their heads and abuse the public, while others fleece it through dodgy practices like civil forfeiture.
Protect and serve, not subject and enslave.
this actually isnt a problem. The amount of people that get bumped for that long are the smallest minority of haulers/players. How do I know this? Because I’m the person in this game who spends the most time bumping freighters. This game doesnt have a bumping problem. It has a siegfried cohenberg problem. People dont get bumped for longer than 15 minutes unless I’m doing it or one of my friends are doing it.
If it only happened once a week it would be too often. To often do stories appear of getting bumped for sometimes hours. I was witness to at least two of these occurrences.
Gank or piss off.
I do it every day almost. If someone is being bumped for two hours. Who do you think is doing it?
Edit: And on the note of “gank or piss off”. Theres more forms of pvp than just ship combat :^). Bumping is a way for emergent gameplay to happen. Fascinating things occur when people are having pressure applied to them.
Instead of complaining about Player Bot Fleet’s why don’t you complain about the NPC Bot Fleets that consume nearly double the amount of resources that any Player Bot Fleet would ever hope to achieve?
One is arguably more “intelligent” than the other, and strategically better at Eve too.
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Talking about Bumping results in a criminal attack on a ship that is not under a war dec in High Sector…tor is the key people. As such promoting bumping in chat or the forums that results in any ships involved in the gank be it the actual bumping ship or the gank fleet that arrives to gank the non-war dec’d target and then has a criminal status awarded as a result, does constitute a violation of Rule 5 of the EULA.
Criminal offence refers to actions that break real world legislation, the criminal status and timer in Eve are an integral part of gameplay and in no way compare.
The reason the Gankers don’t go after the NPC Bot Fleets is because the NPC Bot Fleets have tough as nails Navy support that will show up and wipe their pretty faces off the side of a planet.
There’s a bucket of tears in every pail.
Which is why the NPC miners are in fact strategically superior to the player run bots.
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Which makes the Ganker’s inferior in their continued attempts to rid the game of AFK and Bot Miners seeing as how they can only attack targets that will never be able to fight back.
Low hanging fruit is the easiest to pick, as long as players insist on being low hanging fruit they will be targeted by gankers; the trick is to not be low hanging fruit.
FYI miners can fight back, they just won’t.
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You’re making excuses.
excuses for what
I’d like to know, too.
I’ll give you an example then. An example for how bumping is great and should take as long as it needs to take. I bumped a guy for nearly 2 hours. During that time, I had contacted one of his corp mates and persuaded him to come and awox the freighter. Emergent gameplay.
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