Am I wrong or now they do not unlock you anymore when you move away more than 200 km from beacon? My old cheap Sansha Wolf fit can’t break Succubus tank anymore. I’m tanking fine but I’m already 800km from beacon and still haunts me! It wasn’t like this!
First, they do not unlock even at 1000km fro their base. This was not before.
This is unnecessary cruelty from the dev.
Second. My Sansha Wolf fit was pretty stable. Now it’s useless.
SO I will asume ALL AND EVERY FIT is now unstable.
Be EXTRA careful.
Thanks for fit, anything on the dreakavac as i cant fly a vaga 
D̶r̶e̶k̶a̶v̶a̶c̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶a̶ ̶b̶a̶t̶t̶l̶e̶c̶r̶u̶i̶s̶e̶r̶,̶ ̶s̶o̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶’̶t̶ ̶t̶a̶k̶e̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶i̶n̶t̶o̶ ̶B̶a̶s̶e̶ ̶B̶u̶r̶n̶e̶r̶,̶ (I stand corrected here, see below) - if you mean Ikitursa, then it is possible to do Blood Base with a dual rep fit, but you need to bling, and you need to overheat pretty much everything until the first sentinel is down. This fit below took just under 6 mins, so it’s slightly quicker than the Vagabond.
You need the afterburner and web to get range and tracking on the Sentinels - they tracking disrupt you so when they are both alive, your range on Occult goes down to below 11km but they orbit at 15km, so you need to OH your webifier to get initial web, then AB into range, you might actually want to start with Baryon or Tetryon to kill the first Sentinel.
Once first sentinel is down, you can stop OHing both your reppers, switch to Occult, OH web to get into range on second Sentinel. By the time you’re 1v1 the ashimmu then you have total range control and aren’t taking much damage at all - this is where you make up time vs. other fits with the increased DPS output at full ramp up from the Ikitursa’s Entropic Disintegrator.
I didn’t use my drones at all, but you could if you wanted a bit of extra DPS on the first sentinel.
[Ikitursa, Blood Base]
Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Entropic Radiation Sink II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Thukker Large Cap Battery
Republic Fleet Large Cap Battery
10MN Afterburner II
Heavy Entropic Disintegrator II, Occult M
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Acolyte II x5
Mystic M x1000
Occult M x1000
Baryon Exotic Plasma M x1000
Meson Exotic Plasma M x1000
Tetryon Exotic Plasma M x1000
Nanite Repair Paste x100
tl;dr; a lot more micromanagement and bling required.
Note; This will be the last fit I post on this thread, as it’s become too toxic for me. If you want any fit advice feel free to mail me in game.
Garth
wrong.
I stand corrected - but do you really have to be so blunt in your reply? We are all just trying to help each other in this thread.
Garth
Removed an offensive post. Don’t do it again.
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For your Vagabond fit, do you know what the average completion time is (assuming HAC IV, so falloff won’t be perfect)?
it’s certainly seems slower than other fits: Takes me around 8 mins, with HAC IV. Plug this log into Eve Combat Log Analyzer to see. I did forget to deploy any drones until near the end 
Garth
Got around to logging in and checking some out.
Teams: lol garmur
Agents:
Angel: shield gank dd wrecks
blood: haven’t done yet, probably try wolf first, and have a negral fit I want to try.
Guristas: was worried I’d get volley’d didn’t happen, seemed about the same.
Sansha: with heat it’s fine, I’d suggest starting the fight with heat rather than reacting late like I did, surprised I didn’t take more hull damage.
Serp: haven’t done, although my fit doesn’t use resist mods and uses rage ammo so it should be easier.
Bases:
Angel: not too bad, went in preheated and coasted out no problems.
Blood: was using a rather experimental fit, didn’t even have rigs on it yet, with backup, damage was intense.
Serp: seemed about the same. 90% transversal tanking so not a big difference. Hit my ADC on the first to face tank the room.
guristas: lol anyone else want to try that one?
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wolf is doing like before.
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I was assuming that since it only had 1 a-type plating and was a bit over tanked, probably just move on to the negral then.
Deimos fit for Talos anomic Serpentis burner missions seems not to be good anymore… ZIg zag or not, once in orbit, and MWD off, I’ve been blasted away… if anyone can confirm this we might get a rebalance? Nerf? Not that I’m gonna retry, but if someone is able to test it in Singularity… I don’t know how to… sorry…
It seems to me that the Blaster buff on those three ships, is making tanking impossible… I’d make a ticket this time for refund. I can’t believe the Dps I’ve taken.
I also have this feeling…
Devs need to put back old resistances and dps values for all burners sites as if they were anomalies.
Nerf the Npcs and buff back our resistances.
I see no other way to restabilize balance.
It’s non-sensical to think they would even think about redesigning the missions entirely.
We need to get together.
For they are almost all R.I.P. with few exceptions.
sorry, but there is nothing wrong with burners after patch. looks more like you have to train up.
can you show the deimos fit?
I used the Deimos fit from the Burner guides, this one, exactly copied. I’m all level 5 in all department, also specialization, there’s nothing more I can train! This char has almost 10M Sp!
I also had a capacitor 3% imlplant this run.
I used to do this with Deimos T2 fit, but after reading of the resistance nerf and neut buff, I was scared, and I used the “cheap” cap stable alternative, exactly as the guide. I knew how to fly it. there was no chance. Believe me. I made it OH to range 3000mt, then slowboat, OH the guns. I made it tens of times before. They melted my tank like butter, and the first Talos was almost 70% shield When I’ve been popped!
[Deimos, Burner Talos - Deimos cap stable Alternative]
Core B-Type Armor Thermal Hardener
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Damage Control II
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Corpum B-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Corelum B-Type 50MN Microwarpdrive
True Sansha Cap Recharger
Cap Recharger II
Phased Scoped Target Painter
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Nanobot Accelerator II
Valkyrie II x5
fit looks fine, try watching a video to see how other people did it. probably worth throwing on another resistance mod or two if you are having trouble. Can also try an assault damage control to help on that first one, gives insane resists that will help you take the shots from the other two since you are moving pretty slow trying to dps the first.
pretty much 2 reasons came in mind. sometimes burner missions have a strange behavior.
second, you turn off the repper by accident.(maybe mouseswitch)
I do Burner Talos in a Nergal. Fit a 5mn MWD, orbit 3500m and use Occult. 5x warriors for extra DPS.
Garth