Yes, I know you have never lived in WH space. Which is why you really shouldn’t talk about it as if you have. I’ll safely ignore you until you spend a bit of time living there.
I never mentioned goons. I sad any larger alliance.
If you’re in a VNI, turn off the AB and warp out immediately. The grey/red will get bored and move on. Come back and get what drones are still around. Drones are cheap. You will get away 100% of the time. I’ve done it more than a lot of times. Better yet, you’re watching your alliance intel channel and know someone’s coming long before they are even in system. How do you know? Local chat. Your local chat and local chat that alliance mates in other systems use.
The vast majority of nullseccers are in major coallitions. null is very, very safe. Too safe today. Did you just say you rat in a carrier and aren’t pre-aligned? With respect, you deserve to lose that carrier.
In short, get rid of local. Stop asking for easymode nullsec life.
I told you before that I did not live in a WH, though I have passed through them a lot and I know people who have lived in them and I know the mechanics having asked them about it. Therefore I can ask questions like I just did and you as normal ignored. What was the change to signatures that changed the risk equation? Do you know? How can you equate the massive amount that can be dropped by cyno to using a hole to attack someone which can be scouted. Simple questions mate!
Larger alliance, so because they have +10 warning of someone in what direction, you assume this is the same as everyone else.
I rat when others are off line, I play when I want to, so I use local in the system which I am in as my main tool of avoidance. I do not have the security that you talk about and assume incorrectly as the norm.
I am in the premier Au TZ alliance in Eve, I am definitely not safe when I rat.
I rat in a VNI, I have ratted in carriers, when I talked about aligning I talked about the warp in which takes a long time, and then the time taken to align, from that you manage to equate to me being an idiot user of carriers which makes me laugh. Fawlty7 said to me that I know how to carrier rat when we were talking about carrier ratting for our alliance, a lot of people know who he is, and he knows me very well, so what have you got?
There is no easy mode in the majority of nullsec, you want easy mode for your hunting in nullsec without local. Anyway you are a complete waste of time debating with… I had you marked as a terrible hunter WH player who can’t handle local.
Congrats that someone in your alliance says you know how to rat. Good job on that, really. I have a lot of people who say I’m good at EVE too. Now that we have things that are irrelevant to the conversation out of the way, let’s move on.
Carriers are capital ships, not meant to be flown outside of a fleet. I assume you have a fleet on standby when ratting in one. What percent of the time you spend ratting in null are you in a standing fleet and on comms? I’ve asked you that maybe a dozen times so far and you haven’t answered yet. If your answer is less than 100% of the time, you’re doing nullsec PvE wrong.
If you watch local, you will always get away when ratting. I want nullsec to be more than easymode ratting/mining.
The fact you’re asking those questions about WHs shows even moreso that you’ve never spent much time in them. You do realize you can counter drop in null and cannot in WHs, right? the size of the force that can take you by surprise is fairly equal to the size you can effectively counter with in both null and WHs. The risk is similar. If you’re in null and in a ship valuable enough to be hot dropped, you have a fleet ready to respond to counter, right? That’s how WHers avoid risk. Find a single serious WH corp that lets people even be online and not in a fleet. Compare that to null and you will find the biggest reason people in null get killed.
And you also realize you can fit a cloak to your ratting ship to escape a hunter, right? Stay aligned to a safe, warp out when local turns non-blue and cloak up immediately. Have you ever actually ratted in null?
I actually like a challenge in game, I can’t support nullbears who just want easier ISK printing like you.
And if you remove local then you will get away 0 percent of the time. Regardless of if you are watching Intel channels or not.
With the current system, I’d you pay attention you can be safe. But hunters can still catch inattentive players.
Removal of local means hunters would be able to catch damn near anyone at any time. With only some serious bad luck allowing someone to escape. (Covops in system grabs tackle lights cyno) the only way to counter that would be to have a person sitting in every single system within jump range to see the fleet before they can bridge/jump in.
That is a level of co-ordination and scouting that only the largest of alliances could manage. And even then it probably wouldn’t be worth the time or the effort.
So people would simply stop using capitals to rat or mine. Which means the hunters would go from being able to ocassionally catch unwary or unlucky targets. To catching absolutely nothing because there is nothing to catch.
Caps are fleet ships, not something intended to use solo. You could still easily use caps to rat/mine if you have a full fleet with you, as was intended.
In order to maintain security in a wormhole you only need to have a person stationed on your holes. (And its easy to see when a new one might have opened because a new sig appears)
Even if a covops is in the hole already.
There are also limits to the size of fleets that can be brought into a hole.
In order to have the same sort of security in null you would need to have scouts in every system within jump range. And probably even one or two jumps beyond that.
I’ve lived in Provi, was mining in a Exhumer and use local from time to time to see if it’s spiked with reds, the main Intel info are monitored through alli Intel chats. Still we had ratters and miners killed on daily bases, so not sure what is wrong from both sides people get kills people got killed.
If OP wants to eat all pie and not to share it with other family members, dunno probably better not to play Eve.
alts on the gates would not protect against a cloaky already in system with a cyno. so, as I said before, you would need alts in every single system within jump range. yes having a support fleet on standby and hundreds of alts in every system might be feasible for the major null blocks. but for smaller entities, ones that might only consist of 20-30 players, it would completely drive them out.
May as well just rename the entire area to goonsec and be done with it since only the largest entities could survive.
We’d do the same thing we’ve already done, either join someone bigger that can provide local supercap superiority or simply reactivate those old incursion/lvl5 blitz/burner blitz alts.
The past is a guide for people who will use it, and thinking that removing local (in space that has gates and allows cynos will mean more conflict when a simple anomaly change in 2011 caused a shift in population to high sec and incursions), is crazy to me.
I don’t see why the ‘remove local’ people can’t understand this (other than the wormholers who simply can’t understand that k space doesn’t work like wormhole space). The only real way to get the point across would be CCP removing local from null on sisi so that they can finally see that it just won’t work.
Its still the same situation. People die, because Hotdropper. People die, because roamingfleets.
But all 0.0 is probably too safe!!!111*
Again. People who complain about nullsec, don´t have ever set a foot in some regions or never lived in 0.0 at all, or they realy think, canning local in nullsec would help them(LOL). Well. Flying around and d-scanning the whole system to find prey is probably “interesting” for them, I suppose…
