In my opinion you are being dumb about this, in any case your view as a low sec pirate type is hardly relevant in terms of people who play the Empire part of the game, so what that you were able to be safe while being observant and doing it right, that is good game balance that if you pay attention and do it right your chances of getting caught are pretty low. You do know that hunting is supposed to be a challange by the way, not some jolly jape with 100% chance of success, Eve is supposed to be hard unless it is not, removing local makes hunting too easy and that mate is bad balance.
So CCP need to change their game because some people cheat and they donāt manage it, great idea mate, donāt become a game designer.
Nope, because it will make it totally not worth it, remove cynoās and then we can talk about it, oh and the free intel on the map like people shooting rats and the like that will enable people to zero in on people doing stuff, if any are left that isā¦
Your opinion on the meaning of a word is invalid. Dumb means - ātemporarily unable or unwilling to speakā.
Lowsec is actually the place i operate the least. I have alts in 2 mainstream sov alliances so iām pretty effected by this change too.
Yes. Like ghost training for example, or hyperdunking, or that time that wormhole corp cheated their way to infinite range / tracking guns. Each time CCP made a change to the design of the game to prevent the cheating. So whatās your point? Of course a games company will edit design elements to prevent foulplay. Now iām not saying they should on that reasoning. I think they should remove local chat, free map intel and remove citadel timers to name but a few.
You constantly try to paint me as a fanatic one way or another (whatever way i disagree with you) but i really just want EvE to become a dangerous wild west again. Current systems are stagnating. You enjoy the stagnation because it allows you to make easy money. I am willing to lose my income for a less safe, more wild feeling game. Scream about easy targets and lazy PvP all you want, anyone who wants things to stay as they are is lazy, because thereās famously nothing going on right now.
And what are you painting me here as, I want 100% safety for easy ISK, both Sonya and you do it.
Rubbish, there is lots going on, a damn big war down south for a start.
I am not willing to make it ultra easy for people to farm kills for their first person shooter like thrills, it aināt Eve mate and you are acting dumb on this part.
Also you are being dumb comparing local bots which are against the EULA to exploits or using game mechanics like the above, the fact that they are automated should see them removed, none of the above are bots.
But āextreme resistanceā and ācarebear agendaā does not have enough weight to make any changes. First you need to provide real reasons for these and analysis of pros and cons before and after.
And i still have to see one good argument about removing local. ā0.0 sec is too safeā does not count because word too is very personal. Which is too for someone might be not enough for another.
I donāt PVE at all now, I only log on for fleet PVP so you canāt accuse me of having an agenda. Iād probably be the player least affected by it out of anyone in this thread.
However, I used to PVE a lot and I know exactly who would be affected the most and why, which is why I have said many times that itās a ā ā ā ā ā ā ā moronic suggestion to remove local.
The only reason this thread is still going because you guys are in total denial and think PVE players will play the way you want them to play. Removing local wonāt ā ā ā ā ā ā ā solve anything that you want it to.
I am the same as you, I have started to do more indy and less ratting to get my income to pay for PvP ships, it needed a capital injection which I have done, so this would not affect me either, however it will kill newer less skilled players by leaving them at the mercy of high SP easy kill hot droppers. If CCP did that, well what can one say, apart from what a dumb move.
If nobody goes to Nul to do PvE because lack of local chat makes it too dangerous, then we can assume that with no targets eventually people wouldnāt bother to hunt there either. What in your opinion will be going on in Nulsec after the initial confusion?
Nope, you forum warriors do this all the time, many of the HTFU posters go off on such things as you want to remove ganking, you want 100% safe PvE if you have a different view, take the most extreme position and say that is what you want to discredit that person, it is your dishonest mode of operation, so I will say up yours to your joke, was that a joke?
As to your question.
There will be islands of activity where very organised and high escalation potential groups will operate. Goons in Delve would be one such example, another would be my own alliance in the AU TZ.
If CCP just removed local and did nothing else it would be pretty negative, but a balance would eventually develop but there would be a lot less people in space and the content will be a lot less interesting.
My point of view is simply the more people out and about doing stuff the better and this in itself will result in more content, if you have a lot less people milling around null which is what removing local will do then a massive reduction in content.
In fact I am seeing more and more people getting into fun capital fights due to being able to buy and operate caps and while you may think that the content is not there, that is not my point of view.
No, you are not getting a more wild west feeling from removing local. All you get is more areas like the drone lands. Systems, constellations, regions where absolutely nothing is going on. In a way this is actually like the wild west, because there was also nothing going on there except for in busy hubs (towns), along busy routes (train tracks or rivers) and close to bigger population centers (the civilized states/cities). In between these extreme spots, there was vast emptiness and boredom.
That is exactly what you already have. But with local removed, it will be more extreme because there are fewer spots where action can take place because fewer people are there overall and those are more condensed.
Instead, what you have to do to get a more wild west feeling back into Null sec is go there: Make it unsafe, camp gates, roam there, intercept ratters/travelers, make the residents work for their safety, make them drop titans in vain on your ceptor fleet, hunt ratters, hunt hunters. Null sec does not need less information availability, it needs more people to go there and do things.
Iām not sure but I think according to Eve Lore, the reason players show up in Local chat is because Stargates register each ship passing through it. Since thereās no Stargates in W-holes, players donāt show up in Local chat.
Soo, since Empire Factions donāt control Null sec space it makes sense that the lower the system security gets those Stargates will progressively provide less info.
Currently there is very little of this content you speak of. I think more combat interaction and less ISK farming would be a good thing.
Capital fights are like PvE but with TiDi. There are more people getting into Titans too but that isnāt content either because the vast majority will never lose them due in large part to local chat.
That makes no sense what so ever, PL lost a Titan to us recently as they did a drive by shooting, there was local working.
As others have said put your money where your mouth is, if you feel there is too little content then go and make some, I happen to see a lot of content but I operate in one of the busier regions.
For you perhaps, as I said you are a solo player so it suits you.
Found out so you cry, you lot should stop doing that, but then again you must probably grew up in a society that thinks that debating someone is to call them names, and by the way I only do it when people do it to me first before you start getting all salty.
And you are a shoal swimmer who is desperate to keep the lights turned on
I donāt do salty, itās just a game as i keep having to remind you. Weāre all friends even though we kill each other in pixelspace and i school you on a forum.
No you appear like a dumb ass at times, you havenāt schooled me in a single thing, gee you are up yourself in a major way mate. A real legend in your own lunch timeā¦
