If you don’t want local…move into wh space. Challenge met and flattened. Empire space is full of probes and such to monitor local…omg…what a concept.
Smart players will just increase the ISK cost of everything to make up for the loss in ships, if they venture into Null & have no ideas who is waiting for them. That or they just stop going into Null & slap on high ISK for everything outside of Null.
At the end of the day players will go where they can make the most ISK, with the lowest amount of risk v’s reward value. I’ve only lost the one ship thats worth something in like a couple of years, so year making isk is way to easy, mainly because of the player driven buy / sell - trade market.
I think the only way to increase pvp in the game & thats to lock players in a arena area like “Alliance Tournments” , they could have this in select area’s all over Null & i reckon it would bring some major corps out of the wood works to practise & also collect loot. Perhaps who ever has the most kills in arena would get some sweet loot at the end of a season or something like that. Perhaps no where near what you get at “Alliance Tournment” since you don’t want to de-value that epic sport.
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Wait, you’re roaming nullsec in a 2m tops frigate, and you’re upset you either don’t get fights or don’t cause the locals in 30b+ supercarriers to run and hide? If you want fights, go to FW lowsec. Guarenteed fights near 24/7.
[Citation Needed]. The only reason there’s 9T isk mined in Delve is because there’s no war for people to fight in. Removing local won’t change the fact that one d-scan ping and you know exactly what’s within 14AU of you, and that’ll give you enough time to decide whether you give a ■■■■ about what’s there.
There’s currently no incentive to start a war with the new sov, so everyone’s in bear mode. Deploy anywhere and your home system will immediately be overrun by every alt of every two-bit corporation and alliance that can fit an entosis link. That, coupled with space aids and warp speed changes means the only thing that really goes to hostile space are frigate and destroyer fleets.
Only if you present an argument as to why nullsec should have local removed other than “because”. Removing local won’t do what you want to do.
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Except as I pointed out, A) it’s not about what I personally want, but what would be good for the game (actually there were many times I was mining or doing a site in WH and thought to myself “man I wish I had Local in here.”) and B) WH space is fundamentally different from NullSec, Local being only one of many many differences between the two lifestyles.
So again as I already pointed out when you posted it the first time: Not a valid rebuttal.
0.0 is not Empire space bud.
I meant New eden oopsies…Since it was colonized?
I don’t see the problem.
Null is easy as pie, wh is a toss of the dice every time you leave pos/wet paper bag (citadel). Thanks for pointing out the differences.
Null a neutral or red enters system, in my experience from about 6-8 yrs ago…everyone farming docks. In the end…null is farmland…wormholes are the jungle…there you go.
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Nope. I’m just as happy to fight other frigates.
But interesting: The NullSeccer is saying if you want PvP, go join FW, and leave NullSec to the farmers?
No, a citation is really not needed. If you don’t understand how inflation is bad for a virtual economy (or any economy really) then you need to go on google and do some research bud.
Again, I don’t personally care about specific groups/regions/ships.
Yes I … believe I… mentioned that…
I’ve discussed it at length ITT, and if after all that, the only summary you could come up with was some trolly “:becausereasons:” then I bid you good day and hope you enjoy reddit, it’s more your level of discourse.
There’s many more differences of that. But good job, you baited me into responding to your trolling.
How is that trolling? Your thread is nonsense and you just lost one more person slightly interested…quote wilkepedia on trolling would you for the crowd of 2 or 3? Er…urban dictionary.
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Get your self a wife and stop recommend all postes from People Who think that eve is good and not need an Change in this way.
Wach out that your door is open otherwise you will break your nose on it
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Because you keep saying blatantly incorrect things, that are incorrect by common knowledge, so that I come and correct you, and you just spew more incorrect things. Like half of your comments in this thread were off-topic and just insults/trolly memejunk so I’m blocking you now. Good day and goodbye. 
ditto
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The nullseccer is saying go to FW for frigate PVP instead of wandering nullsec where it’s not worth it to undock to fight you.
Inflation’s bad, yes. But you claimed it was “gamebreaking”, which requires a citation.
And your solution was ■■■■.
Admittedly I didn’t read every post, but you’re advocating for a solution that doesn’t touch the problem. You have no evidence, proof, or argument that removing local will somehow encourage big bloc entities to pour trillions into massive slugfests instead of merely fortressing up.
Well that’s weird. I get plenty of fights in NullSec roaming around in a frigate.
No, it doesn’t. The economy is a central part of EVE Online, uniquely so compared to other games that can function without a market at all. If the economy breaks, it does indeed break the game. Again, if you don’t understand this, it’s been talked about at length by CCP at both fanfest (there’s a source) and in devblogs (oh look another source).
Not explaining how it doesn’t touch the problem: Check.
Talking about a completely different problem/goal: Check.
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I agree with OP. All warp drives in the system should be disabled for 20 minutes whenever he enters a system so he has time to scan everything down real good and fix a sandwich and watch some cat videos on youtube before he ganks the people enjoying the 1% of the game that isn’t pvp.
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one system wide bublle for him sounds good…but he can warp though…it’s only fair. Without local…just minimize…winkwink…I thought my anology was good and I didn’t need to quote wilkepedia.
WH’s are the jungle, null is farmland. To some uncertainty sucks…but not this guy
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I literally explained it in my original post, not to mention the plethora of people smarter than I who’ve written entire articles about it, but here you go:
Removing local will not encourage alliances to slug it out for two simple reasons:
There’s no incentive, and there’s no reason.
For better or worse, resources are not limited in this game. Ore belts, ice belts, ore anomalies, gas sites, and combat sigs respawn after a pre-determined amount of time. I don’t have to move to another system to continue super ratting in order to keep my income going. IRL, conflict occurs when resources are scarce, and acquiring them normally is logistically unfeasible. In EVE, while each region has their own balance of minerals, you can pop off to Jita to buy the stuff you’re missing, and ship it home. As resources are relatively infinite in EVE, the price for the odd component / ore / PI will not rise unless CCP intentionally fucks with it. There’s no reason to invade NCdot space when you can just buy their isotopes on the market.
The second half of the issue is the wand sov system, and the fact that in order to invade a region to hold it, you need to deploy your capital and supercapital forces, which leaves your region relatively undefended. Look at the Casino War. When Lenny started funding the SRP of every other alliance in the game, the very first thing they did was blue each other, and move their dreads, supers, and titans as close to Dek as possible. Because their force was positioned at the frontlines, and because it’d be very, very annoying to defend their rear, they had to blue each other if they didn’t want to turn into a rowdy moshpit FFA running around stamping on all the fires and wanders. It’s not feasible to hold two entire regions with supercap forces because all you’re doing is making it easier for someone else to overwhelm your forces when the next B-R happens.
TL;DR: There’s this much crabbing and mining because there’s no conflict, and there’s no conflict due to Fozziesov and infinite resources.
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Okay, now, go back, reread through my posts, and find me the part where I say anything about “alliances slugging it out”. I’ll wait.