Right ■■■■■■■ there. 2/10 made me deal with CCP’s shitty new forums.
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Not seeing it. Are you sure it’s there? -squints eyes- I don’t see anything about “alliances” or “warfare”. I see some bits about slowing down the ISK faucet and sinking some materials - in the context of making ratting/mining in NullSec a little more dangerous, regarding Local chat and intel bots etcetc.
Are you sure you didn’t just quote the wrong bit? You just go on back and find it. Surely you just accidentally quoted the wrong bit.
There literally is no faster way to remove 1T isk in materials from the game than to throw 2 thousand nerds into the same system in big fuckin’ ships and have them smash them into each other repeatedly. Whacking the odd Rattlesnake here and Carrier there does ■■■■-all to the total ISK and materiel balance of the game, and you’re an idiot if you believe that.
Fastest way to slow down the tide of ore being mined? Remove Rorqs. Fastest way to slow down people from crabbing in their capitals? Start a war, supply more plex, or reduce the demand for plex. Removing local is like rotating the tires on a car that’s currently running on rims.
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That’s cool. So what’s your point, and what does it have to do with Local?
That’s a cute analogy. Do you have an argument, though?
My God people on these forums are damn hopeless. I suppose changing the technical side doesn’t do anything for the actual people posting so I shouldn’t expect any different than the old forums.
For being oh so intelligent eve players, why is it near impossible to have a conversation that actually moves in a direction on these forums? Getting sick and fed up of the point-scoring, and paranoia in every thread.
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Because removing local doesn’t make someone mine less in a Rorqual or run fewer sanctums in a Nyx.
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Okay well that’s a bit non-sequitur there. And those are oddly specific examples. Is this the part where red herring and tunnel vision on one or two myopic points and go back and forth on it, winner takes all for the entire argument kinda thing? It’s been a while since I posted on reddit so I’m a little rusty on the way you folks do things.
If removing Local wouldn’t make people mine or rat less then what’s the issue with removing it? Like why so vehemently defend it’s existence if you’re saying it’d have no effect? What’s the motive?
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It’s still more intelligent discourse than reddit though.
These forums are full of something referred to as trolls. They are abundant and you may find a definition in the urban dictionary. Basically adults feel they can act like young children when anonymous I suppose. The old forums were a much better example.
I’m willing to give this a shot.
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What happened to player driven game? You’re proposing a programmed solution to something that should be solved by players themselves. There are numerous ways to disrupt the mining and ratting, go do it.
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This argument is specious. You can make the same argument for NOT adjusting Citadel timers and fixing Aegis SOV… two things sorely need in of iteration.
Oh god not another whining WH player who can’t deal with local, HTFU or stay in WH space.
Lots of people get kills regardless of local, go and look, though it appears you do get it as I see your recent loss of a Malediction in Pure Blind, that is how people catch people, they use fast warping ships to get tackle, who would have thought that?
And yes I will call you out, get better at Eve, and by the way 50% of WH players I have come across since coming back to null sec hug the damn WH like it is going out of fashion.
Local is balanced, and I have to ask why should CCP punish us non-bots because some people use bots and they don’t remove them from the game?
PS As I think you are just a troll that will be my one post in this stupid thread, perhaps there should be a features and ideas thread for remove local threads, like there is for AFK cloaky camping threads
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That’s a total non-sequitur. Fozziesov is a different thing than people ratting in null. People have been ratting and mining in null for years now, so what’s different that there’s a sudden need for a nerf? In before 260m ticks.
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Do you realise that it is beyond boring that the ‘tactic’ is to use a fast warping ship, like duh of course it is. You want to get on grid before the target warps, because he knows you’re inbound (important bit). If you’re going to get on grid fast you use a fast ship. Again, brain dead decision.
What if someone for some reason wants to use another ship? Does eve have any room for personality or are you all robots in a machine?
have a local update delay based on ADM, starting with a minimum of 30 sec delay at ADM 6 and like 1min at 0
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Increased size in null sov entities.
Decreased number of major sov entities (normally with most of the losers pilots getting absorbed by someone else, see above point)
Increased sophistication of player tools
Increased API access with the new API’s providing new ways for the tools to share intel.
And it’s hardly a new problem anyway, it’s just gotten worse with the above points & others contributing to the problem.
My preferred solution is to just use Constellation, it’s already perfectly made to achieve all the desired effects without needing any fancy coding or anything.
You guys realize you’re just arguing yourselves into further arguments no? The OP will throw in wilkepedia articles to help you on your way I suppose. Basically a circle of irrelevance.
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The tactic to using an interceptor is to achieve something called “first tackle”. Your job is to get on grid and hold the target down while your main fleet arrives.
If you’re asking why the meta for poking hostile space for fights is interceptors, warp speed.
In a Claw, 1DQ to VFK takes 26 minutes 37 seconds without bridges.
In a shield Tempest, 1 hour 2 minutes without bridges, 58 minutes 22 seconds with 1 bridge.
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It seems like a non-sequitur because you don’t really know what you’re talking about. You want something to happen to nullsec to stem the fuckhuge income but you don’t understand that your suggestion doesn’t measurably do anything, and you absolutely refuse to acknowledge that fact.
Because 1) there’s no reason to remove it and you haven’t given us one other than “because”, and 2) Who’s to say capsuleers haven’t created something to create a subspace system-wide module similar to PDAs that automatically ties you in when you jump into a system?
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How will you chat with players in local if it was removed?
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