You probably did. Sivala if on route can be where you can sense you are being watched. And it may not be paranoia lol.
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Well, when the Triglavian ships were new, I used a Leshak for L4 missions. That really felt like mining, visually and audible 
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No doubt.
L4 missions are a better form of mining than High Sec asteroids anyway. Not only do you get paid decent sums but you can take the crap modules that sell for next to nothing and reprocess them into minerals you can’t even get. Grind up anything that sells for less than its value in minerals so you can use them to produce something that can be upgraded in the LP store into faction modules/ammo. You’re basically turning lead into gold. Not a ton of money, but it’s a fat percentage. Fatter than Veldspar by a wide margin, anyway.
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We must stop the ganking. I call upon all alliances, to do everything they can, to stop these ganker killers. Thank you…now watch this drive!
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In case you aren’t aware, there are salt-harvesting people that exist in every activity in Eve Online. There’s no activity that is free from them, and it’s not like Ganking is the sole exclusive activity that has such people.
So, part of the social sandbox is A) coming to terms with that and B) navigating social situations so you’re with a good group or have good friends and C) having a spine / being able to ignore toxic folks when you bump into them, so they don’t get a rise out of you.
Ganking just has the property that it tends to be the activity that most often impacts people who plug their ears and try to avoid the sandbox.
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It also breaks up location. Find new level X agents to whims or changes. MIning can do this too though.
Heimatar miners and runners know this. They’ve seen min mil and angels fw take systems to 130+ plus locals past few days lol. If a miner has not learned to move by now…well, take those chances in the suppressed systems lol.
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What I do not understand with such posts is why people want to stay permanently in Hi Sec. Is it because you don’t want to join a group? Come on, it’s an MMO. Interact with other people a little bit. Or security? Why don’t you go to Null and mine there? There it is significantly safer and, above all, more productive. I mean, there are groups that don’t have any demands and you can do whatever you want.
Possibly because the first attempt they made to leave High Sec ended when a player interacted them into a fine red mist.
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He must be playing a different game to me, or mining very close to Jita as there’s plenty of systems 5 to 10 jumps out that are very quiet and you can mine and mission to your hearts content (obviously keep an eye on dscan etc).
So no, I don’t recognise the picture he is trying to paint of the game.
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As a born and bred Yorkshireman I have to agree 
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Lol…I’ve done ganking on behalf of alliances. You want to mine in our space ? Either join the alliance or get ganked. Good luck trying the reverse.
As a noob I mined in Mirilene in a Procurer…only half a dozen jumps from Dodixie…never once had any ganker issues, though these days a ganker called Guybertini visits there now and then. Then I mined in 0.5 Aurcel. Had to be careful…but there’s usually so few people there that its easy to spot half a dozen gankers suddenly arrive. Later I mined all the way down south in Azerakish…a 0.6 system near Amarr with some of the largest asteroid belts in Eve…massive things 700km across. Safety popped in once in a blue moon, but apart from that I had the system all to myself.
Never been ganked mining.
Dumbass, nobody is AFK mining in a Hulk, that thing holds like 9,000 m^3, would not last 5 minutes.
Garbage. As long as a couple morons in catalysts can alpha a ship that ‘might’ drop more in loot that the cost of the ships, the ganking will continue because of pure economics.
If the security status loss was not so easily mitigated by purchasing tokens, there might actually be substantive consequences, so the OP is right in asserting that CCP has a large part to play in the lack of balance.
Gankers will always win because a single ship EHP is always going to have an upper limit, where the input broadcasters can just N+1 all day long.
Got to admit, there are parts of EVE that are VERY bad and have been for a long time.
Amateur. Black Ops Battleship → covert cyno.
While at the same time complaining how the markets are dead.
Incorrect, if CCP truly believed that non consensual PvP would be permitted in the starter systems.
Are we playing the same game? People do well in EVE in spite of the design, not because of it. A new person is %100 screwed unless they find a corporation that knows what they are talking about, and I do not mean the tin pot high sec groups of around a dozen people that just beat each other off in a asteroid belt thinking that mining a billion units of veld is going to make them rich.
Like T20 BPO’s, the Drifter Invasion, Poshven system flips from Serenity and Blackout?
No it is not. It is a dog whistle long form of ‘F U, us old vets are rich as F and so bored at the stagnation of the game we pick on the weak and the scrawny cause lololol’
CCP needs to do for ganking, what was done for high security wars. The risk is so low to be meaningless and any loss is too easily mitigated to the point of irrelevance. EVE needs to grow and that just will not happen with the power disparity between the established and the new players is tempered.
Blackout being a perfect example. Nobody but the PvP 31337 wanted that and after a week they were all upset that nobody wanted to play. Hell, look what happened to Rust Hardcore servers. Its always a minority of people who want a toxic mechanic and they find themselves very much alone when people have the option of going somewhere else.
It used to be that the NPE had a task to join a corporation, which just meant a bunch of corporations getting spam applications. It was just silly.
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yes they are, hence why its so easy to kill them
its easy to avoid as i mentioned, if you know how
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Hisec is fine /thread
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N+1 won’t help them if you are not there any more once they land on your grid. They cannot magically teleport to you, they have to warp to you. And if you just click “warp” when the local spikes, you will be pretty safe a few hundred kilometers away on a bouncespot watching them landing in an empty belt.
That’s beautiful. Did you actually write all that or is that just delectable copypasta salad?
Ok, I’m sorry. While some might call me a carebear (they’d be mostly right), HTFU dude. Hauling that much in a T1 hauler is idiotic. And yes, I’ve lost T1 haulers, i got smart and changed how I haul expensive stuff, no losses yet (knocks on the closest piece of wood, because i’ve probably just jinxed myself because i responded to this thread).
A loss is a loss, if you don’t want to lose your stuff don’t undock. undocking is consent to PvP, someone out there wants your stuff, don’t make it easy for them.
If you’re pissed about the loss, get in a capable combat ship and exact revenge while you still have kill rights.
Simple.
Edit: oh, and maybe you should re-read this forum post - 8 Golden Rules for EVE Online - New Citizens Q&A - EVE Online Forums lots of wisdom there.
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Like the gentleman above me just said: Undocking is essentially consent to PvP. You really want to be mitigating how much of a target you are at all times. If you don’t know how to go about that I can give you two pointers off the top of my head:
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Set your D-Scan to 360 degrees and maximum range, develop a habit of obsessively eyeballing it. Watch out for combat scanner probes and groups of destroyers in particular. It can and will save your life and your wallet in every area of the game. Put it right above your chat box so you can see how many people are in local. If you see a bunch of people pop into the Local channel all at once dock up immediately.
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When you’re mining align yourself to a safe station and then stop your ship. This will ensure that you can bail at the first sign of danger. As long as they don’t warp in directly on top of you your odds of escaping are pretty high. Remember: They can warp in on the same marker you did, but they can also scan your signal down with combat probes.
Note for Eloken: I’m not posting this to imply you don’t know what you’re doing. I may be using second person pronouns but it’s not necessarily directed toward you specifically. If CCP coddles new players too much they’ll never learn, and they already have a hard time learning as-is.