If a 1400mm artillery shell is capable of doing about 2,000 damage, what do you think would happen to an Orca if a Stabber does a short-form warp through it, reaching a velocity of let’s say 1,000 km/s at the point of impact? The energy transfer wouldn’t be very difficult to calculate, as we can use something like the Iowa-class gun stats (406mm) to extrapolate the kind of damage being done.
That Stabber would split a moon open like a melon getting hit with a 50-cal.
Unless our posts on this are about 4 mid sized paragraphs each, we will just talk past eachother too much to even have a semi-decent conversation I think.
His viewpoint is actually relatively enlightened, considering that most carebears think that being able to attack someone in high-sec in general is an exploit.
Really it’s both sides that are destroying eve , but your the entitled assholes here, someone that gets kicks out of trying to mess up the game mechanics and players, it’s a space combat game with depth which includes non combat activity. The reason PvP is ■■■■■■ in high sec is because people like you abusing the old PvP sys to a point where CCP had to stop it .
Now, Abudban is slightly different, the ganker there have a reason to gank the ice fields , they want the ice , they can’t war Dec corps because you messed the old wardec sys up by abusing it and even when it was around the mining fleet would be in a Npc corp , so to get the ice they gank , they do it like you should in eve , band together use the rules and take the ice with force. The only problem the other side doesn’t band together and fight back.
Not that I’m defending the gankers in Abudban, they take part in other ganking activity and need to be hunted killed.
We just need an alternative game play to ganking and players need to band together and fight them ,it can be done but it’s hard work to counter there activity but we will never give up and within Eve’s rules and tools there has to be away.
If your interested in our fight against gankers contact me or our corp to find out what you can do but it’s always people power in eve and a group will always be more effective than a solo player. Don’t think you can change anything on your own .
In the old days, the scope and intensity of high-sec PvP were much lower than they are today. But people complained regardless of that, because the existence of high-sec PvP in any form was already seen as an affront. This led to the snowballing of both the intensity of high-sec PvP, and complaints about it. If no one complained back like 15 years ago, I seriously doubt that things would be the way they are today. And because the complaints won’t stop, CCP will keep nerfing high-sec PvP further, which will lead to even more intense use of what few high-sec PvP mechanics that will remain.
It doesn’t matter how many alternative gameplay methods would exist; most high-sec carebears would never make use of them because they categorically refuse to engage in any form of combat due to their aversion to its perceived risks. You could give them CONCORD ships that are just a sliver short of being omnipotent, and they still wouldn’t use them because anything related to risk and combat terrifies them to their very cores.
You as an AG represent a tiny minority of the player base, and even then your methods inherently rely on the protection afforded to you by an all-powerful NPC force, and not your own merits.
And I stick by my claim that the old wardecing corps messed up high sec PvP. This is the mess we now have , I also think the NPC corp are a lot of the problem, just pleased I don’t have to fix it because really I can’t see how
Genuine interest in this statement in particular, why are the NPC corps a problem?
There’s a lot that needs fixed and highsec is now broken. Would be nice to hit the reset button to 2008, it wasn’t perfect but these were simpler times.
That paraphrasing is far too short to have any sort of value at all. Surely even you can see its too short to represent what I am saying fairly.
It pretty much just sounds like you know I am right but can’t accept that. Gankers being able to use free ships to lure Concord away is just rotten, maggot infested garbage. That said, the reworks required to fix it are understandably off putting. This has “this bug is a feature” written all over it.
The mechanic works both ways, miners are equally as free to spawn Concord in a belt to deter gankers using the same mechanic; at the cost of a little sec status for an alt.
