CONCORD introduces the Dynamic Bounty System

Except I’m not. I already vented my ass all over blackout thread, and invited CCP to check everything about me to ensure I’m not connected to any botting operation, because I don’t bot, and condemn botting just as anyone else.

Those changes least affecting botters is exactly the problem I’m complaining about. They won’t affect botters as much. They won’t affect worst offenders on overratting as much. But they will destroy me, the small guy in the independent nullsec alliance with no super umbrella coverage.

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As usual, the botter tries to paint himself as “the small guy”. :joy:

Look. It’s pretty obvious that this will hit bots hard. I understand this upsets you. No one cares.

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…which was exactly what morons said about blackout. And were wrong as usual.

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Wait wait.

An independent operator in null with no cap support presumably rats in quiet systems, to avoid attention.

And quiet systems are the ones which will change the least, yes?

If they can just add a few more bots to the pool… they would already be running those bots. You seem to have some weird ideas about botting.

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That is if you are a renter and can afford a quiet system.
And if you’re non-blue to blocs, you get systems 4 jumps out of lowsec, which are the opposite of quiet, used by all the filament trash on the way back to mama concord’s protection.

probably. I never lived in one, so I don’t know how much traffic a quiet system is supposed to get.

KwG botting story suggests otherwise. Their constraint was how much ISK they could sell, not how much they could gain. The gain could always increase.

Actually I think he has some pretty good idea about botting. I’m also pretty sure that’s why the change upsets him so much.

You are absolutely right. I have an idea about botting as much as everyone who read the KwG botting story. The change upsets me exactly by how little it would affect a botting operation like that, compared to how gravely it would affect my playstyle.

If that change hurts your operation then you are basically mindlessly farming the same system day in day out… like a bot. Sorry, I don’t see the difference. I’m glad CCP finally gets rid of that sickness.

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Simply… why not. I like it moreless. The thing again is that CCP is doing a change that makes no sense story wise. I explain myself: Lower bounty in system where pirates are killed endlessly : OK but link that to system where people fight then it goes up… WHAT ? what’s the link ? Concord will congratulate you for fighting between ourselves by raising bounties on pirates ? Story wise it does not make sense (again). Why spending so much on stories like trig then just dump new things like that without a story…

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And they rat there? So they are already busy then, and so less opportunity in the first place.

I’d just like to thank you for that post. Really glad.

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My “operation” was a bit of ratting during quieter part of the day. This will be completely gone, as now I have to defend ESS, which is probably not possible outside of my alliance prime time, and even then, not like we can really form something when some of the more stupid roamers like INIT bring a roam of more people than we have in our alliance post-blackout.
Thus the odds are my ESS will be cleared 4 times an hour and I will lose a lot of time and ships trying to protect it, ships I cannot replace because my ratting income is stolen and my mining is rekt. And botting operations won’t care about stealing, as they are not even close to max capacity, limited by amount of ISK they can sell rather than the amount of ISK they can gain - so they’ll just throw more bots at the problem, and I can’t throw more me at the problem.

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Good. Nullsec should never be the risk free farming it is now.

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My piece of nullsec was never risk-free, I deal with chicken roamers 23/7.
Is it really me who should have been nerfed, while bots will just scale up and won’t notice?

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Offensiveness is like any other rhetorical device: best used as a precision tool, under very specific circumstances.

Nah. Market’s driven by demand, man, just like everyone else. You don’t add processes you don’t need to your farm’s load, just like no matter how much they cut corporate taxes, nobody’s hiring more workers than they need to build the stuff they can sell.

One is a player at the keyboard, which is what CCP wants (and what players should actively be supporting) and the other is automated bots, farming ISK for RMT.

2018 called, they’d like you to get a clue about the overall impact of the changes since then.

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Well no because if you what you say is true about local activity, bounties will go up, not down.

On singularity right now, accel gates on the ESS work just like on FW plexes, you can just glide in if someone’s camping outside. The ESS bubble scrambling out to 20km (?) has been really weird, but since everyone will land scrammed, that seems like a really good point of conflict that still favors the defender.

The 75km scram radius has been confirmed as a typo on day 1 btw.

For roamers atleast, even if the locals refuse to fight, they will still lose some pennies via ESS, and the locals have a point they can figure out how to defend or even use these scram mechanics to their advantage. That 450mil pimp vaga isn’t going to stand up against a mean AB atron right on the ESS.

What’s the point of them going up if all I do is sit on ESS and not getting them?

The scram mechanics is a MAJOR DISADVANTAGE of the defender, because offender enters first and can effectively choose range, or disengage in some slippery stuff, wait till defender leaves camping ESS, and go in again. This trolling can go on for days every 5 minutes. I definitely won’t be able to keep it going and will have to dock up until this system is scrapped.

Perhaps then you should think about your strategy more and less about how the game doesnt bend its knee for your convienience. Because its a game, not a colour by numbers, yknow?

And yes yes some hyperbolic statement about how a 10% drop in profit margin = task worthless/undoable/not fun anymore (like it was in the first place)