I was talking about lore/RP specifically 
Even if I don’t win, I’ve spread an important message and maybe a glimmer of hope! It’s a seed that will evolve over time.
@Maby_Arareb
Yes, it is true, I have very little combat experience compared to other CSM members, but I don’t plan to engage in any conversations regarding fleet doctrines, new weapons technology, ect.
I’m sorry that a lot of people feel like I have broken some unwritten law by offering CONCORD the -by caldari standards- totally legal bug bounty. But this incident shows in incapability of the DED [ ISD ] to interact in a civilized manner. Instead of negotiating, refuseing or accepting my offer, they tried to cover it up and leaving me in the dark about their plans.
This does count for every CSM member, right? I think it’s about efficiency. Being part of the CSM means you can adress problems directly to the highest officials, while the other way would be very slow and time consuming.
I can give you some statements, but remember, they are not necasarry my personal concerns, however, I agree with them. Once my survey is over, I’ll have a list of probably hundreds of points that I will present to the council regardless of the election outcome, so don’t see this as a final statement.
- More workpaces! [ overhaul of the mission system, creating the options for players to even set up their own agents and missions in their structures ]
- Clone Bay Modifications! .Some capsuleers complain about the limited options in clone customization since the last Bay update. I’m here to change that.
- Upwell Concern Since the new Upwell citadels came to the market, upwell has gained a monopol on almost every station that is set online in the cluster right now, driving all empire related construction services out of the market… We need to regulate Upwells business model to establish balance. [ we want to build minmatar / amarr / caldari / gallente stations or something we can identify with, not some generic stuff ]
- Empty undocks. While places like Jita flurish with business, some other places seem kind of empty. We need to bring business back there! [ add some shuttles and stuff just for the looks of it, but this is also something that could be solved by game mechanics ]
- Improve stargate fees . Improve the trade routes for the general public, not capsuleers only![ make NPC Haulers use stargates and travel the cluster, just adding life ]
- Concern about Rogue Drones. We’ve heard rumors about crazy Rogue Drones. We have to investigate if the drones have changed their behaviour! [ CCP could deliver their lore-promise and give Rogue Drones real AI that learns player behavior and would naturally evolve ]
- Education. The children of today are the future of tomorrow. We should do more to support them learning about the universe!
- Culture support! [ support local, smaller culture groups. More official support for the RP community in general. ]
- Hope! While experiencing an economic crysis right now, the people need hope that after the struggles, everything will get better! [ remove generic stuff and replace it with something better fitting to eve-lore ]
You might recognize that the statements differ in size and complexity a lot. While there are simple requests like a tax easing on “Cat ears” in caldari space, some requests go really far and will change life in new eden forever.
“And this is, what I’m aiming for. Long lasting positive effects on the cluster and for all it’s people regardless of race, profession or age!”
o/
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You seem to be under the impression that the CSM can change things. They can’t.
The CSM are for all intents and purposes a blend of a focus group and sounding board for CCP to throw things at and see what sticks. Ideally, they are composed of diverse enough people that there are representatives of most New Eden capsuleer demographics and their activities, steeped enough in the various communities and cultures that they can provide a representative feedback to what CCP puts forth.
Campaigning on the changes you want seen in New Eden is for all intents and purposes a non-starter because it shows you don’t understand the CSM role to begin with, and your vague bullet points pretty much also confirms you’re not particularly representative of a capsuleer demographic large enough to warrant a CSM spot. The majority of your campaign for all intents and purposes belong in the ‘Suggestions’ sections of the boards, not at the CSM table, and you’re starting to make it very clear you bring little else to it.
If you want to campaign for the CSM in an actual serious fashion, may I recommend shifting your view of it as more of a liaison between a community segment and the CCPlz Overlords? And at that, perhaps actually come to learn what said community segment finds important. You’ve already taken some pretty massive dumps on several sizable parts of it as it is.
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Guess what? That’s the whole point of CSM. Believe it or not, the whole point of resource acquisition, reprocessing, science and industry, transportation, and marketing is to ultimately procure armaments for use toward combat, which is the whole point of the game. A very, very, very, very, very select few players play the primarily game as a “economics simulator” with little to no intention of doing any combat, which is the reason why virtually every other player signs up to play EVE to begin with. The number of players who player the game because they actually enjoy sitting in a mining belt collecting ore is in the lower single digit percentages. Ask the majority of players engaged in these activities why they’re doing any form of logistics and their answer will be “to make money/help produce or acquire armaments where I need them so that I can sustain combat operations or eventually engage in combat sustainably.” If an almighty deity presented players with the option to do all these logistics or to simply be provided with the same combat ships in the desired locations that their profits would have been used to acquire, almost EVE player would say “just give me the ships because I never actually cared for logistics I only did it to get ships.” I’m obviously not saying logistics should be removed from the game - I actually consider it to be an important part of the EVE experience… except that you’re not even qualified to discuss matters of logistics either. CSM Steven Ronuken, creator of the Fuzzwork website and the bread-and-butter tools most industrialists and marketeers heavily use and rely upon, isn’t running for CSM this year and you are not one-tenth as qualified in logistics as he is to fill his seat.
Again, generic talk - you keep talking about efficiency but you are not taking any platform or explaining how you are planning to be efficient. Literally everyone in the history of campaigning for anything in any serious capacity has done so with the intention of being effective and efficiency. You have not stated what mechanisms you are going to implement that increases the efficiency. You have not said how you’re going to be efficient in establishing a dialogue with the community or be effective in making a case in CSM to influence other members or CCP.
Here you enumerate yet again extremely vague and unspecific statements that have zero tangibility other than “X is something that can be improved! We can improve X by increasing player engagement and education and lore (and T-shirts)!”
When you run a campaign, you’re supposed to run on an actual platform (taking surveys is fine, but that should be supplementary to a position you’ve already assumed already developed from prior community engagement), not “because I want to become president some day”. We call that egocentrism. This campaign isn’t because you want to make EVE better, this campaign is because you want to become a CSM better to advance your vanity and roleplay persona, the next chapter in the story of Komi Valentine. This is why you include your picture is basically every post you’ve ever written, because it’s not about making EVE better or representing the interests of other players, it’s about you.
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@Maby_Arareb
I think I have made my goals clear and there is nothing more to add. If you think I’m not suitable for fitting into the CSM position, because I’m not a master logistical tactician, or whatever reason, just don’t vote for me, it’s that simple. You don’t need to come up with accusations.
Without a variety of candidates there wouldn’t be an election, and I’m just a little more variety. =^_^=
@Mizhara_Del_thul
I really love talking to people, I’m -in my estimation- creative, a good observer and problem solver. Those are great attributes for a CSM in my opinion. Should I maybe state that much clearer?
Yeah… to satisfy your ego 
Any other candidate I can read their platform (because they actually have one) and I can say “I agree or disagree with you”, but you… you’re just in it for the vanity. Not only am I not going to vote for you, but I am going to encourage everyone against voting for you. This is reprehensible conduct and frankly you should be ashamed of yourself for attempting to trash a valuable seat on the CSM by treating it like a beauty pageant and wasting our time.
Sincerely,
- Maby Arareb, Non-Egomaniacal EVE Player
P.S. Don’t worry, this is probably my last post on this thread. I think I’ve made the case that you have no case to make as to why you’re worthy of occupying a seat on the CSM. 
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There is no such thing!
Please don’t be put off by this incident. If you have an opinion on me or my campaign, please share it with me so I can improve. I’m really not that well prepared, for it’s my first political campain, so I’m sure there are a lot of things I can improve on.
I will try my best to ignore false accusations, that are spread about my person, even if it is very hard to not comment on them 
o/ Komi
- Saying you don’t have a platform is not a false accusation; the absence of a platform is quite evident
- Saying you are egomaniacal is an opinion, but the extent to which this is objectively true or false can largely be qualified or even quantified by examining https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Komi_Valentine/activity
- Saying you are not well prepared is disconcerting for someone who wants to assume such a vital role in improving the future of EVE
- Saying you think you are good at stuff or have good qualities does not make it true or truer than any other candidate. You have not demonstrated the extent to which you do or do not possess the qualities you claim to have. You have not demonstrated that you possess positive qualities to a greater extent than other candidates (or even the average person). “I’m -in my estimation- creative, a good observer and problem solver.” <<< your opinion of yourself does not matter, your accomplishments and lack thereof, however, speak for themselves, as would the merits of the comprehensive platform you are running on, which you do not have (see Dunning-Kruger Effect).
- One quality you clearly have demonstrated not to possess is the ability to state details with any degree of tangibility or relevance when repeatedly given the opportunity to do so
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Thanks for your critic,
You are right about the platform and my preparations. Most of the people I interact with are baseliners and don’t even have the right to vote for the CSM. ( But at least I have taken the time to prepare a nice poster 
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I think I really need to work on the details, since so many people criticised that point. My opinion was, that details don’t matter that much, because as counselors we can only give our opinion on certain topics, that are highly dependent on the feedback we get from the population.
And details about my person are public available and a double edged sword like you mentioned.
At the end it comes down to trust.
Regardless of the criticism I will not withdraw my campaign, because I want to represent the people who haven’t had a voice before.
I have no illusions about being a top candidate, (look at my small booth^^). I feel and may look like a shady street vendor, compared to other candidates, but I’m honest and maybe there are capsuleers that feel like me and understand where I’m coming from…
Please don’t look to the stars and think it’s all just a game…
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Komi wakes early in the morning. Whatever morning meant out here in space.
Her small living quarters at the Guristas freeport were lit by the sun that now crawled slowly and shy through a single small porthole that was the only gap in the confined walls made out of metal and hard plastic.
Both her bodyguards, loyal freedom fighters, were sleeping at the two armchairs, that surrounded a round table where a game of “Colonize!” was started but never finished.
She should have been mad, but over the past few days she had been demanding a lot from her men.
Getting into trouble was one of her best talents, and her crew had already suffered a lot, because of her actions. If anyone deserved a break, it was them.
Komi got up, careful to not wake her sleeping guards and made her way catlike to her desk, while organizing and tying her hair up.
A small pile of holoreels and datasheets, probably all commenting on her CSM campaign, waited on the unfirm table. She grabbed a random holo, put on her headphones and activated it.
Her chest dropped as she exhaled slowly to relief herself. Going through all this messages was exhausting, and it was just the start of her political career.
At first she thought the holo was broken, it stuttered and spotted, but the quality improved after a couple of seconds.
Komi watched the whole thing [[ >> CSM 15 | Vote for Komi!]] quietly.
The holo got thrown into the next recycle bin. A hand supported her forehead, on which now small wrinkles disrupted her perfect skin. She wanted to punch the table, release some of her aggression, but the two snoring guards forced her to fall quiet.
Receiving personal threats was one thing, she could pretty much ignore it.
This message on the other hand was not a simple threat to herself, but a threat to her whole kind that offered some additional advice with the vainness only an Amarrian could radiate.
On top of that, the creator of this holo was an powerful capslueer. How much of his threats he could make reality? She had absolutely no idea…
Pondering for over one hour, she finally recorded a small video and send it to Mr @Jurius_Doctor :
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On playing the Video, it would reveal Komi standing on a planet. The video background was edited and showed a beautiful beach with azur water and white sand, covering up the fact that it was taken in some loomy Guristas quarters. There was nothing that could indicate that the video wasn’t taken on the beautiful shores of Kalyai. The sun on her face, the wind in her hair, even the attenuation of her voice in the fresh breeze was perfectly simulated by the editing program.
Komi, wearing a sky blue shirt, turnes to the camera and indicates a slight bow. She smiles slightly.
“Greetings, Mr Doctor
I am very thankful for your honest advice. May the best one win! I’m glad your campaign focuses on the economic development of the cluster as well. With all respect for your work, let me give you some advice in return.”
The young woman continues while slowly walking to the shore:
“The decisions of the Stellar Management resort to the general population as well. And while you and some other capsuleers consider yourself not as humans anymore, I wanted to remind you, that your thoughts and your motives are very similar to those of us humans. Instead of looking for borders between us, you might to look at the things we have in common.”
Komi faces the camera again.
“We have feelings, passion, motives and a consciousness as well. This is what defines us as humans, not the color of our skin nor our physical body or our immortality or lack of it. You might be powerful, but you cannot exonerate yourself from having feelings, passion and motives as well.
We are like those beautiful trees…”
She points at some vegetation in the distance. In reality only a dirty spot on the hard plastic wall.
“… we stand tall and reach for the sun, but if our base is chopped off, we fall and will never recover. To me -no offense- you seem to be a broken tree.
The moment we stop caring for each others feelings… is that the moment we become inhuman? How could a beautiful forest exist if all trees were chopped?
What do you think?”
She stops and her tone becomes darker.
“To adress your last part. I’m not interested in staying quiet and just observe our civilisations falling into pieces. I don’t want to become a martyr, and if we all just act in our best manners, there is not need to use force. Additionally I wanted to inform you what I’m not interested to turn into one of your pawns or slaves! I don’t need your protection, the Republic is my protector, because unlike you it cares about us small people. And my brothers would never turn against me. I would rather die then give up my freedom! For all Matari are free people!”
Komi raises her fist in her best iconic Ushra’Khan impression and the Video ends.
The CSM is not an in-character position.
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it does however exist in-universe, so its still valid to run from an in-character. thee player behind Komi the character actually would approach this seriously from an out of character perspective assuming they were elected. I’ve been good friends with them for a while.
Well that’s great news, unfortunately all we have to go on is your word with regard to the seriousness and professionalism of the candidate. This isn’t even your campaign, you aren’t even running for CSM far as I am aware. A CSM campaign built entirely on third party ventriloquism is going to confuse the voter and lampoon the process.
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Thank you @Lauralite_Anne_Brezia for your support.
@Xenuria Why are you so concerned? Do you think somebody that has lived her whole life in this cluster and knows a variety of different people from different backgrounds wouldn’t be a good candidate? Especially when it comes to the representation of baseliners in the CSM?
If you wish to meet me in person, we can arrange that, too.
Jurius’ com link beeps. He brings up the holo feed silently in the data layer of his field of vision. It plays before him, translucently floating in the air. Beyond the field of view the capsuleer pilot of a Vagabond is screaming fury under a barrage of projectile and drone fire.
“Heh, well… if that’s how you want it.”
He waves a dismissive finger and the message is deleted. The Vagabond’s smoking wreck turns in onto itself and blossoms with fire. Jurius smiles and opens a new link, “Deckhard, get in touch with your contacts. I want a trace put on one Komi Valentine.”
The voice on the other side of the comlink is mirthful, “Oh, what’d she do?”
“Nothing of consequence. I’m just a trigger-happy immortal. Shoot on site. One billion credits bounty, payable directly to the person who brings me her meat popsicle.”
((OOC: Update, fresh intel))
A few moments later Jurius’ comlink beeps. “This is Jurius.”
Deckhard is laughing, “Check your messages. I’ve just got a response back! You’re going to love this.”
“Keep your pants on.”
Jurius brings up his messages and the top one, a copied message from Avel Sounilier, slides out and opens centre field of view.
From: Avel Sounilier
Sent: 2020.05.06 21:49I’ve found your sleazebag.
She is in the 6NJ8-V system, UTZ-7B constellation of the Venal region.
With regards,
Avel Sounilier
The laughter echoes over comms for several minutes.
“Guristas space? Some pacifist.”
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You do not appear to be taking CSM very seriously. The absence of a platform has quite literally degenerated into playing dollhouse with @Jurius_Doctor as your campaign strategy.
You keep saying you know people and understand them and can represent them but you still haven’t said a single thing in regards to what you stand for or hope to change. We have no reason to believe you know or understand anyone or can represent them well any more than anyone else because you have not provided any evidence to the effect. None of the few endorsements in this thread are meaningful because they have not provided meaningful explanations for why you are a suitable candidate, only that “they know you” or that “they like your thinking” - the endorsements are as superficial as the platform. Saying “I plan to take surveys” is not an acceptable basis on which to run a campaign as any CSM member can and and probably will do that. Nobody wants to waste their time getting to know you (or any other CSM member) on an individual basis when you could drop the RP for once in your EVE life and just clearly and explicitly and directly present facts and hard evidence and actionable positions to us via your campaign.
If you are actually looking to win the election instead of run for publicity’s sake, it would be in your best interest to relocate 99% of the RP outside of your campaign into RP-appropriate forum categories. As far as your campaign goes, what little RP is actually appropriate should be more like a nice SKIN on a solid ship, the ship being your platform… right now your campaign is more like an assortment of 100 SKINs with not even a Velator on which to apply them on.
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You guys are SUCH fuddy-duddies. At least she isn’t some corrupt nullsec shill.
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((What follows is OOC)) Now, now, Archer… Let’s not be too critical here. ‘Playing dollhouse’ is a real discredit to a lot of the roleplayers in New Eden who put a lot into creating the evolving in-game story that forms much of the broader tapestry of EVE’s non-null environment. I will remind you that the members of Arataka Research Consortium are included among these, as are the much-loved ISD.
I, myself, am not a roleplayer but I am a writer and Komi’s campaign offered me the chance to flex a bit. It’s a weird flex, I’ll admit, but it allowed me to exercise a few things which it appears Komi forgot.
One, if you’re going to run in-character, remember that in the character of New Eden many capsuleers - especially those from sovereign null-holding PvP alliances - are murder bunnies. We enjoy shooting things just for the fun of shooting things. PVE and industry is just how we go about paying for our psychopathy.
Two, if you’re going to play a pacifist and go up against that, remember that they will use all the tools available to a murder-hungry psychopath with billions of credits and a personal armada, which include bribery, extortion, bounty hunting, and personal hunting parties.
Three, if you’re going to run in the above two arenas while holding to the white flag of pacifism and being a simple mortal, at least try to remember that tracker agents are a thing.
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I am very much an ally of the RPers. In other MMOs I only joined the RP-PVP servers… but this is one of those right-place-right-time things. Combined with a deficiency of that which is needed right-here-right-now, things aren’t looking healthy. It’s like trying to construct of building made entirely of paint. It’s just not holding up right now. My critique is not of RP or even running with an RP persona (I find that to be neat and support that), it’s the notion that the actual campaign, which had no substance to begin with (we’ve been giving Komi many opportunities to provide said substance), is now 100% RP in its official campaign effort. This thread is now a dollhouse, literally… there’s no excusing that.
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