[Discussion] PLEX and Omega price changes feedback thread

If you love this game, as i used to do, you will understand that CCP is now a greedy company (or pearl abyss rather)

You don’t have to support a game or a developper, especially not one as big as them. Not supporting for the sake of supporting them. It is their job to make a good game, a good experience, at a fair price. They did not deliver in those last 2 years. The price increase is actually just a realization of what is going on, the problem is much, much deeper than this.

You know what kind of game sells you directly everything you need for real money? Crappy phone games, scam games. Is that really what you want for the future of our beloved EvE? Bots are a problem, that’s true, but CCP demolished the gameplay of so many people to tackle a problem that could’ve been handled differently. And actually i firmly believe that CCP caused more problem to EvE than the bots could ever do, so in a sense they wouldve been better off not doing anything about it, not that this is what i want. But if the solution to a problem is the destruction of everything, then this is not a good solution.

So yes, i do love what eve used to be, not what it is becoming. Patch after patch it starts looking like one of those crappy, scammy, casino like phone game. I actually cannot believe that you think what you said in your comment. So either you are a troll or (maybe) a ccp employee trying to protect your job? Sounds far fetch but you never know. Or maybe a bit young and naive too.

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Just WTF ???

A reason they could have added background noise to the windows on PhotonUI was to try to hinder bots scraping the UI. However local still has a CTRL-A CTRL-C CTRL-V possibility to automatically capture players in the system?

They need to render the local chat list as an image, not text UI elements copyable to prevent scraping.

Easiest solution is to allow gamers to disconnect from local chat complately, that makes themselves blind of local and also not show up in local. So they also lose that “intel” capability whilst benefiting from not appearing. It’s a symmetric function. Blind paired with not appearing. Kind of like a friend list on a messenger when you remove somebody, you’re removed from theirs too and vica versa.

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If the price (USD 15 in 2003) was fair originally (and I among others think so) it is still fair now that it is corrected for buying power (which amounts to USD 25ish today) if the product is the same - the ‘same’ bit relates to the rest of my comment:

It is only a fair transaction with the price increase if CCP sticks to their part of the bargain and stops breaking existing content while providing new relevant content as they did back then.

Here the average buying power increase explained (copied from @Becem reply about a day ago):

Exactly! CCP have been suffering due to inflation and giving us players quite the bargain! Coupled with PLEX, Extractors, Cosmetics, Skill Point Packs, Expert Systems, and Ship Packs, CCP will have more than enough money to blow our expectations out of the water!

With all the great things over the past few years, imagine what CCP could give us with just a little more money in their hands.

More luxury flights and hotels for the CSM.

Bigger wizard hats and more booze.

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CCP spend a lot of their hard earned money to provide us players with things like the CSM and the fanfests. We are the only community that gets a CSM that provides feedback for help CCP develop an even greater game for us. And unlike some developers, CCP goes out with the players on pubcrawls to drink and dine with the playerbase. What an amazing team!

I’m IN!!

Quafe flavored coffee.

Another opportunity for CCP to make some $$. I want “Destroyer” coffee in a coffee tin with a Thrasher, Catalyst, Cormorant, and Coercer on it.

I think it would have been better to clearly say why the raise is gonna happen to maintain a transparent communication-channel to the players. Also I’m deeply conviced, that providing many requested microtransaction services would have been the better choice of getting additional money as it does feel a lot better to choose to pay for something rather than just having to pay more for the same thing you already pay for.

For microtransactions I’m mainly talking about things like much more customizable character and ship options (such as alliance/corp/etc. shared ship skins) much more clothing options in game for the characters and stuff like that. Other games show how this can be a pretty good monetarization model which provides the best player experience for everybody.

Y’all bring up an interesting idea with the Starbucks reference. Starbucks is only incidentally a coffee shop. They are little gift shops that happen to sell coffee.

Eve has some aspects of that. More stuff to buy that doesn’t undock or shoot.

I still have my Rifter USB hub.

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I distinctly remember Apple II forever. Forever and technology don’t belong in the same sentence. Then again, there is this thing call a pencil.

I would really miss local threat if local became just a graphic.

After reading this Q&A Article, I’m assuming many of these things will be announced at Fanfest; probably with lots of content updates.

To be honest, though, I’ve become very wary of CCP announcements, as they have a history of announcing things in a big way and not implementing them, only partially or half-heartedly. But let’s see, I’m happy to be taught better :slight_smile:

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@Ion_Armstrong There was a time where they did make a “firm commitment” to never sell SP in game. They went back on their word on that despite being confronted by the community. As much as I love this game, CCP has proven themselves to be liars on many occasions.

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Don’t ya love promises. What’s the divorce rate again?

reminder of ccp response about price increase (Screenshot by Lightshot)

ehi isd, don’t try to flag my post for no reason when we share whot ccp realy think of us :slight_smile:

sorry isd, i have better resolve then you

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The better way is for them to get more people to play the game and buy subs, rather then having players pay more. CCP though isnt trying to make the game fun and is pushing people away, and adding high cost just does that even more.

I agree with this, on the whole CCP have reduced content for the past two years to correct the ecosystem and introduce balance. This hasn’t attracted players or created an exciting dynamic environment to keep existing players interested as seen by the numbers from Eveoffline. Overall the value of the game is certainly lower than what it has been in the past.

Creating austerity in the game was the easiest route to take but the most ridiculous from a player retention/attraction perspective. We see enough of that in real life.

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I agree, as I point out in the lowest part of my answer; CCP/EVE must uphold their part of the bargain as well to get my subscription(s).

I do however see that CCP has delivered and supported something new at least for me lately, such as EVE Anywhere (greatly increasing my ability to play EVE when and where I want to).

In any case to me EVE was always mostly a sandbox (as advertised), with players creating content for each other and CCP just making sure this happened without technical troubles. I hope to see a return to those days, by CCP focusing less on balance tweaks (which usually causes more problems than they fix) while instead doing more maintenance/technical bug fixing to keep improving the sandbox and giving players new experiences in the form of new separate content (such as Trigs and T3 destroyers).

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