another point why no one should just swallow it imo is:
if eve will succeed with a 34% hike, it will signal to every other game that such steep increses are ok and everyone who was thinking about a 1$ increse (couse for them lets say that would have been enought) would follow and take a 4-5$ increse.
Like, what signal it would have been after netflixe raises their subs if no one would complain about it or no ppl would jump off? just think about it.
Other games have less reliance on multi-accounting. Other games have lush landscapes and role playing. Other games expand their worlds. The market prices are going to go up, subscriptions on luxuries are going to plumet. People will be looking for food in a few months. People will be watching their stocks plumet. They will be lucky to keep paying for internet.
Its very frustrating that a ancient game that no longer really puts out new or unique content and is already wallet heavy and multi account heavy would make such a change. im curious to see if anything new comes with this price hike? free plex and or skins maybe? ive got a year already paid for and i was planning to get my alts going again in the summer but i think it may be time to find a new game if $20 a month is going to be the monthly fee required to play a game as old as Runescape. =/
Yes this is true. Eve has the advantage that most of their world is empty space. I thought that by now that mission runners and explorers would have a plethora of new landmarks to feast their eyes on. But itās still mostly the same.
I started a new account just to see the NPE and was honestly surprised by how cool the intro missions felt. The visuals, the voicelines, the atmosphere. I can imagine a new player would find the rest of the game incredibly dull after that crazy introduction. The abyssal sites look decent too, tbh.
And then they slam into EVEā¦ yeah.
I will definitely be killed hereā¦ HAHHAHAHAā¦
Kudos to CCP for being brave and patient enough in increasing the price which is to me very much valid in their prespective. I agree with their decision and will definitely continue to resub to support. I think I am one of the least player who subbed via money, not from game generated isk like mining or PVE. Since I now only play 1 or 2 hours a day, so unable to make isk ingame to pay my omega account, so I have to pay cash. In CCP prespective, they also need to survive to support this game in terms of hardware utilised and also pay the game designer themselves. Most hardcore player resub via the many money making isk available ingame.
Main issue with the games is bots.
To control this,
. Last time they use blackout, a huge success to control botsā¦ but then people start to complain. So they remove that.
. Then they introduce buying mining ship via real money. Which to me, I am really happy about since at last CCP now play the bots game, to counter bots. Most of the ingame bots, whether you agree or not is to collect wealth ingame ISK. Why people do this ? RMT, manipulate and control player market, wage huge wars etc. If CCP start to introduce ship that can be bought using real money, sooner or later, people will definitely buy from CCP since their price is fixed somewhat, while the ingame player market fluctuate and can be manipulate ingame. So if people donāt build ships anymore since now ships can be bought straight from CCP, then the player market will crashed as nobody buy ships from the ingame. RMT also will suffer since rather then peole buying from them, people will buy directly form a legitimate source ie. direct from CCP. So a good way to bring down the bots threat. CCP already trust the player by allowing player to control the marker, this is already a godsend. We should be thankful for this, which other online game allow player to control the market ? To me, CCP is saying, they can play the bots game, see how the bots user feels then. The botters already making huge profit and subbed indefinitely using their ill-gotten wealth.
. so come the third challenging changes in subbing cost. To me given that eveonline has been stable for many many years, and successfully at that, is one of the cheapest online game. Look at star citizen price, though with the high price it still really popular. They need to make profit as well you know. If bots, RMT etc is not controlled for sure in the end, no more real money income from player, and in that case, I think eve online will definitely die as, how does CCP maintain the hardware cost and people salary if nobody pay cash since, if bots allowed to thrive, people will maintain wealth through ingame isk making 24/7.
Since people complains and run riot to those first 2 events and also am fairly sure, people will start to riot again to blame CCP. I really love this game and will continue to support ccp (though I am writing this using my least use alpha account, as definitely I will be trolled to death ā¦ :P)ā¦ hahaha.
If you really love this game, you will defintely support it, to me the price is reasonable due to itās complexity, beautifulness, reliability, stability and with lots of contents, you will never find those in other games. With it years of services and matured enough for all kind of players, itās the perfect game for everyone. CCP doesnāt force people to pay, there is enough contents for alpha players, so rather than make noise, use the rage to kills the bots, help CCP to fights them.
Go CCP GOā¦ yeah
If you love this game, as i used to do, you will understand that CCP is now a greedy company (or pearl abyss rather)
You donāt have to support a game or a developper, especially not one as big as them. Not supporting for the sake of supporting them. It is their job to make a good game, a good experience, at a fair price. They did not deliver in those last 2 years. The price increase is actually just a realization of what is going on, the problem is much, much deeper than this.
You know what kind of game sells you directly everything you need for real money? Crappy phone games, scam games. Is that really what you want for the future of our beloved EvE? Bots are a problem, thatās true, but CCP demolished the gameplay of so many people to tackle a problem that couldāve been handled differently. And actually i firmly believe that CCP caused more problem to EvE than the bots could ever do, so in a sense they wouldve been better off not doing anything about it, not that this is what i want. But if the solution to a problem is the destruction of everything, then this is not a good solution.
So yes, i do love what eve used to be, not what it is becoming. Patch after patch it starts looking like one of those crappy, scammy, casino like phone game. I actually cannot believe that you think what you said in your comment. So either you are a troll or (maybe) a ccp employee trying to protect your job? Sounds far fetch but you never know. Or maybe a bit young and naive too.
Just WTF ???
A reason they could have added background noise to the windows on PhotonUI was to try to hinder bots scraping the UI. However local still has a CTRL-A CTRL-C CTRL-V possibility to automatically capture players in the system?
They need to render the local chat list as an image, not text UI elements copyable to prevent scraping.
Easiest solution is to allow gamers to disconnect from local chat complately, that makes themselves blind of local and also not show up in local. So they also lose that āintelā capability whilst benefiting from not appearing. Itās a symmetric function. Blind paired with not appearing. Kind of like a friend list on a messenger when you remove somebody, youāre removed from theirs too and vica versa.
If the price (USD 15 in 2003) was fair originally (and I among others think so) it is still fair now that it is corrected for buying power (which amounts to USD 25ish today) if the product is the same - the āsameā bit relates to the rest of my comment:
It is only a fair transaction with the price increase if CCP sticks to their part of the bargain and stops breaking existing content while providing new relevant content as they did back then.
Here the average buying power increase explained (copied from @Becem reply about a day ago):
Exactly! CCP have been suffering due to inflation and giving us players quite the bargain! Coupled with PLEX, Extractors, Cosmetics, Skill Point Packs, Expert Systems, and Ship Packs, CCP will have more than enough money to blow our expectations out of the water!
With all the great things over the past few years, imagine what CCP could give us with just a little more money in their hands.
More luxury flights and hotels for the CSM.
Bigger wizard hats and more booze.
CCP spend a lot of their hard earned money to provide us players with things like the CSM and the fanfests. We are the only community that gets a CSM that provides feedback for help CCP develop an even greater game for us. And unlike some developers, CCP goes out with the players on pubcrawls to drink and dine with the playerbase. What an amazing team!
Iām IN!!
Quafe flavored coffee.
Another opportunity for CCP to make some $$. I want āDestroyerā coffee in a coffee tin with a Thrasher, Catalyst, Cormorant, and Coercer on it.
I think it would have been better to clearly say why the raise is gonna happen to maintain a transparent communication-channel to the players. Also Iām deeply conviced, that providing many requested microtransaction services would have been the better choice of getting additional money as it does feel a lot better to choose to pay for something rather than just having to pay more for the same thing you already pay for.
For microtransactions Iām mainly talking about things like much more customizable character and ship options (such as alliance/corp/etc. shared ship skins) much more clothing options in game for the characters and stuff like that. Other games show how this can be a pretty good monetarization model which provides the best player experience for everybody.
Yāall bring up an interesting idea with the Starbucks reference. Starbucks is only incidentally a coffee shop. They are little gift shops that happen to sell coffee.
Eve has some aspects of that. More stuff to buy that doesnāt undock or shoot.
I still have my Rifter USB hub.
I distinctly remember Apple II forever. Forever and technology donāt belong in the same sentence. Then again, there is this thing call a pencil.
I would really miss local threat if local became just a graphic.
After reading this Q&A Article, Iām assuming many of these things will be announced at Fanfest; probably with lots of content updates.
To be honest, though, Iāve become very wary of CCP announcements, as they have a history of announcing things in a big way and not implementing them, only partially or half-heartedly. But letās see, Iām happy to be taught better 