Worst bit was when they started showing cities on planets with ships flying around them … I thought it was a lead up to a big announcement … but it was nothing. Just a ham-fisted way of talking about stations.
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Do realize almost all items in the game are generate via PVE content?
Not this…again…very few things are purely PVE in EVE. Please stop.
Cool I can afford the extra $5 a month but I just wont bother and I wont plex either as that makes CCP more money.
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Eve is the elephant and the players are those blind men who tell you what it is by touching one part of it.
CCP is now in the business of making MacElephant Burgers.
One of the best shows ever made. The parents and kids were literally deities, unaware.
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Yeah, I actually re-watched that. It is flatly bizarre. The whole Twitch comment section was flipping out about “walking on planets” and whatnot… Then, nothing…
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This was wrong more than 10 years ago when I started playing EvE and it still wrong. It’s a lie PvP players told themselves and others over and over again until they believe it themselves. And they foud very creative ways to even make the simplest activity “PvP” in their eyes, like “an anomaly you run, cannot be run by someone else so its a PvP-act!!!”. Or “a roid you mine cannot be mined by someone else!”. Or “a sell order of your product gives pressure to the price so you are fighting the sell-orders of others!” and such nonsense. As if you were in combat with your roommate because you breathe… air.
PvP (aka destructive combat) may be the main motivation for most players, but looking back at the last decade and my personal experiences, I know that there are LOTS of players out there that do not want to have anything to do with combat. They want to build and create, be it ingame items or communities. They have literaly zero interest in destruction and enjoy all the other parts of eve, be it NPC-interaction or just exploring this huge universe and its variety of environents, learning the different mechanics and meeting interesting people. To be totally honest, I know very few people who stayed in the game more than a few years because of the “cool fights”. Those who I know stayed for the community and the things they watched grow over the years, things they do not want to abandon easily (and thats not nessessarily assets or wealth).
The greatness of EvE in my eyes never was the combat. It’s PvP mechanics are mediocre at best. The greatness of EvE are the endless opportunities, the extremely diverse ways to chose and especially but not limited to the Social Interaction inside player communities, be it Corporations, Alliances or just loosely tied groups who like or dislike each other.
So if anyone tells you that EvE is or should be solely around PVP, ignore him.
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…doesn’t even know what it means…lol… 
No, we cannot. CCP has made it clear this is from the top, and the man at the top doesn’t give a crap. Did you see the way he phoned it in for the opening ceremonies, and didn’t even bother to speak at the keynote?
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Market activity is definitely competitive. PvP doesn’t mean directly aggressing, only competing. But you’re right, EVE isn’t solely based around PvP. It’s based around direct and indirect interaction, both positive and negative.
Exactly. CCP got a lot of marketing out of the ‘big PvP fights!’ but the whole while ignored what those fights really represented: massive numbers of customers co-operating with one another, to oppose another massive group of customers co-operating with one another.
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That PVE content is to distract you from the PVP player coming to blow up your shiny ratting ship.
This folks is why people get ganked… If you fly such that everyone in space is trying to blow you up, you loose a lot fewer ships.
I used to think like you 10 years ago. I was a high sec carebear. Guess what happens? If you have infrastructure and get large enough, someone war decs you and suddenly you get PVP forced upon you. PVP is a core balancing mechanic. Without it, industrialists would drive prices into the floor over producing every item in the game to the point that no one can afford to plex. Not that that matters anyway, because…
I think though were are straying from the topic, which is that CCP/Eve is going to be entering/continuing a death spiral of dropping subscriptions leading to price hikes leading to dropping subscriptions. As the price of plex will continue to rise, there will be a shortage of players who will be able to afford to plex accounts, causing a further drop in playership and overall increasing prices (scarcity due to lack of player interaction). Inflation will skyrocket. The next decade will be the closing chapter. And if I am unable to plex my accounts, I wont be part of it.
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Good one 
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They got headlines for “X player lost Y fictitious made up dollar amount by doing stupid Z thing”.
Victim headlines.
Hardly good marketing, “look this player lost money, har har, buy our product, be a bully today!”.
Hello everyone,
I see this legitimate debate continuing; it is already a very good thing in itself to let CCP know that we are not their cash cows; it is a demonstration of freedom; Do Icelanders even understand this word: freedom?
But each player shocked by this unjustified inflation of +33% on May 17 can do much more as I have already explained, this single discussion thread very quickly proving insufficient in view of the deafening silence of CCP…
And since CCP will never go back on its decision, hey! good :
1- everyone is free to move on to anything else if they wish,
2- everyone is free to concentrate on their ALPHA clone, or even to permanently downgrade their OMEGA clone to ALPHA in order to ignore once and for all this sinister CCP commercial policy; it is the personal choice that I have just made this week while carefully keeping points 1- and 3- under the elbow in case, and therefore
3- everyone is free to denounce and attack the abuse of economic dependence of which CCP is guilty by acting in this way, as all this necessarily harms the persistent universe of New Eden, and therefore also, to all our Capsulers by ricochet …
As for the lobbies having the art and the manner of blowing hot and cold right here permanently, let them be silent!
I spent my free time chatting with other players and observing the universe of Star Citizen whose version 3.17 has just been deployed by RSI, and I have just understood an important thing:
Unlike CCP, which absolutely does not assume its own errors of choice in 20 years, RSI fully assumes for 10 years its strategic choice of participatory development in open Alpha mode, which is beginning to bear fruit very seriously; all fans of the game are saying it right now, warmly welcoming this latest version of Star Citizen…
So this is it ! Like what everything is possible when players have the right to express themselves freely outside of any illusion of CSM-type decorum!
In the case of Eve Online, everyone must remain free to choose (1-, 2- or 3-), and it is the massive expression of this freedom that can finally tip the scales in favor of New Eden , and not in favor of CCP…
Take my word for it, if you are an accomplished OMEGA after all these years of loyalty to CCP, then an immense field of possibilities unfolds freely in ALPHA in front of you…
Also, what are you waiting for to restructure yourself properly in ALPHA, and thus regain your freedom for free?
Never forget this: we are not their cash cows…
So. Try To Fly Safe Again. Or not.
Ully Loom
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I will miss my t2 and t3 ships, but I have been missing my rorqual now for over a year and a half due to ccp - I still have it for nostalgia sake - if I keep omega going it will be through the sell off of skills and big expensive ships while i watch eve slowly decline first into dementia then to fall and break hips etc. before it eventually runs its motorised scooter into the duck pond of life
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Do you have the data to speculate this? Or see what CCP sees with their revenue?
People will still play EVE People will still pay for EVE. Now the Smart people who could afford a 2 year sub will go that route and save some money because they know they will be in the game roughly for 2 years.
Feel free to believe that, but the decline in player numbers in the last decade tends to contradict you. Plus a price increase will obviously make it worse. Now unless ‘people’ means you and your mates, you are exceptionnaly wrong, prices of everything go up, excluding salaries, this is litteraly the worst time for CCP to increase their price as it makes people think about it, and online subscriptions are the first thing to go when you’re short on money.
Ask netflix
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The Scope’s announcements remind me of XCOM’s announcements for mission progression.
I guess they play XCOM.