[Discussion] PLEX and Omega price changes feedback thread

[tinny_Esil]

@Blood_Ivy

So if anyone tells you that EvE is or should be solely around PVP, ignore him.

This folks is why people get ganked… If you fly such that everyone in space is trying to blow you up, you loose a lot fewer ships.

I used to think like you 10 years ago. I was a high sec carebear. Guess what happens? If you have infrastructure and get large enough, someone war decs you and suddenly you get PVP forced upon you. PVP is a core balancing mechanic. Without it, industrialists would drive prices into the floor over producing every item in the game to the point that no one can afford to plex. Not that that matters anyway, because…

I think though were are straying from the topic, which is that CCP/Eve is going to be entering/continuing a death spiral of dropping subscriptions leading to price hikes leading to dropping subscriptions. As the price of plex will continue to rise, there will be a shortage of players who will be able to afford to plex accounts, causing a further drop in playership and overall increasing prices (scarcity due to lack of player interaction). Inflation will skyrocket. The next decade will be the closing chapter. And if I am unable to plex my accounts, I wont be part of it.

[Nyel_Blazon]

@CCP_Swift

Respected Capsuleers,

Good one

[Emotional_Support_Clown]

@Arrendis

CCP got a lot of marketing out of the ‘big PvP fights!’

They got headlines for “X player lost Y fictitious made up dollar amount by doing stupid Z thing”.

Victim headlines.

Hardly good marketing, “look this player lost money, har har, buy our product, be a bully today!”.

[Ully_Loom]

Hello everyone,

I see this legitimate debate continuing; it is already a very good thing in itself to let CCP know that we are not their cash cows; it is a demonstration of freedom; Do Icelanders even understand this word: freedom?

But each player shocked by this unjustified inflation of +33% on May 17 can do much more as I have already explained, this single discussion thread very quickly proving insufficient in view of the deafening silence of CCP…

And since CCP will never go back on its decision, hey! good :

1- everyone is free to move on to anything else if they wish,

2- everyone is free to concentrate on their ALPHA clone, or even to permanently downgrade their OMEGA clone to ALPHA in order to ignore once and for all this sinister CCP commercial policy; it is the personal choice that I have just made this week while carefully keeping points 1- and 3- under the elbow in case, and therefore

3- everyone is free to denounce and attack the abuse of economic dependence of which CCP is guilty by acting in this way, as all this necessarily harms the persistent universe of New Eden, and therefore also, to all our Capsulers by ricochet …

As for the lobbies having the art and the manner of blowing hot and cold right here permanently, let them be silent!

I spent my free time chatting with other players and observing the universe of Star Citizen whose version 3.17 has just been deployed by RSI, and I have just understood an important thing:

Unlike CCP, which absolutely does not assume its own errors of choice in 20 years, RSI fully assumes for 10 years its strategic choice of participatory development in open Alpha mode, which is beginning to bear fruit very seriously; all fans of the game are saying it right now, warmly welcoming this latest version of Star Citizen…

So this is it ! Like what everything is possible when players have the right to express themselves freely outside of any illusion of CSM-type decorum!

In the case of Eve Online, everyone must remain free to choose (1-, 2- or 3-), and it is the massive expression of this freedom that can finally tip the scales in favor of New Eden , and not in favor of CCP…

Take my word for it, if you are an accomplished OMEGA after all these years of loyalty to CCP, then an immense field of possibilities unfolds freely in ALPHA in front of you…

Also, what are you waiting for to restructure yourself properly in ALPHA, and thus regain your freedom for free?

Never forget this: we are not their cash cows…

So. Try To Fly Safe Again. Or not.

Ully Loom

[Thematic_Chaos_Eto]

I will miss my t2 and t3 ships, but I have been missing my rorqual now for over a year and a half due to ccp - I still have it for nostalgia sake - if I keep omega going it will be through the sell off of skills and big expensive ships while i watch eve slowly decline first into dementia then to fall and break hips etc. before it eventually runs its motorised scooter into the duck pond of life

[Anthony_FatTony_Amico]

@Krystal_Starr

Yall are smoking crack if you think im gonna pay an increase like that in a depression.
the economy is about to collapse lol. and you think you can charge 5 dollars above an industry standard.

Do you have the data to speculate this? Or see what CCP sees with their revenue?

People will still play EVE People will still pay for EVE. Now the Smart people who could afford a 2 year sub will go that route and save some money because they know they will be in the game roughly for 2 years.

[Altesse_Tsukaya]

Feel free to believe that, but the decline in player numbers in the last decade tends to contradict you. Plus a price increase will obviously make it worse. Now unless ‘people’ means you and your mates, you are exceptionnaly wrong, prices of everything go up, excluding salaries, this is litteraly the worst time for CCP to increase their price as it makes people think about it, and online subscriptions are the first thing to go when you’re short on money.

Ask netflix

[Emotional_Support_Clown]

The Scope’s announcements remind me of XCOM’s announcements for mission progression.

I guess they play XCOM.

[Vasili_Zaitsez]

With the $5 increase, I agree 100% in its current state at current price it’s worth it to me. Whenever my current subs run out, I will likely re-assess. If nothing substantial is released, I will likely park the game until I see content worth $20/mo. Not holding my breath on that.

[Vasili_Zaitsez]

Very well said!

[Vasili_Zaitsez]

I think your more likely to be right than not.

[Nemrod_Dreamwalker]

Well that looks more like normal than the stupid 1,7 was thrown around… still feels a bit lower than expected but i think that fits at least a bit better…

[Emotional_Support_Clown]

3 accounts (not 2.6) in reality.

That’s up from 2 (1.7).

Still more than other MMO’s. That’s quite a milking cow and risk.

Why sell one sub when you can sell 3 subs to the same customer.

Would be better imo if they ranked it in discrete buckets of accounts w.r.t. % of customers.

[Altesse_Tsukaya]

You cannot round up any number. 2.6 on average is 2.6, not 3.

Also means the +5$ per account per month hits extra hard their consumers, bad bad plan.

[Emotional_Support_Clown]

@Altesse_Tsukaya

You cannot round up any number. 2.6 on average is 2.6, not 3.

You cannot create half an account.

[Altesse_Tsukaya]

So what do you say when 2 people own 3 account total, you cant say they own in average 1, or in average 2.

[Emotional_Support_Clown]

Sure, but average is a fluffy number, it’s not accurate.

[Altesse_Tsukaya]

It is very much accurate when you talk about an average for a community of several thousand persons.

[Emotional_Support_Clown]

It says nothing about distribution and concentration.

[Altesse_Tsukaya]

So what, would you rather have them say there is x amount of person that have 5 accounts each, x amount that have 4, x amount that have 3 etc…

Because it’s just a more complicated way to say exactly the same thing, with more details maybe but still just the same thing with more steps.