Goodness Id give up running incursions at 4-6mil plex. I survived the period where it was 4mil per plex it was like in 2019? Omega ballooned to 2.7billion. Indeed a scary thought for us plexers in EVE…
Now they are going to get ride of the Skill attributes and you will only skill when logged in
that’s a real sign of failure
You get ZERO benefit from partially trained skills. You only get benefit from the skill once completed to the appropriate SP applied.
Also other MMO’s typically do not have a background SP drop like Eve has, those other MMO’s also keep the bonus item timer only counting down when you’re logged in active. Those other MMO’s only reward SP (XP) for activites in the game world, not sitting doing nothing.
I see absolutely no reason why idle/logged out players should be rewarded for not playing the game, it also is bad that it encourages character farming.
What is a sign of failure, is the amount of accounts a player wants to play a game.
With change, some people will opt to leave, I think that’s expected.
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^want to get rid of your active duty military players…great way to do that right here.
Its also incentive to stay subscribed to Omega. I had 5 accounts active for about 4-5 years before Alpha was a thing. Its one of the key benefits of the now $20 per account.
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Eve wasnt EVER cheap compared to the market… .so… the cheapest AGAIN? good joke.
Eve was always on the top end if it comes to cost/month.
But sure, maybe all other will at least double their prices and than maybe eve will be average or even below average price for the first time since release… we will see.
Yea okay retard. Dont tell the devs they are doing a ■■■■ job, because that makes a whole lot of sense. Do you breathe out of your ass the same way you talk through it?
He keeps flagging my posts. Hes definately an isd alt 
heavy handed report and delete button am-I-rite
Where did you see that? I did not hear that on either days fanfest presentations.
Another way to easily do this would be ads in stations you already have billboards. Put ads that play in the stations you dock in. If you don’t want to hear it mute the ingame sound. you could also put ads randomly in space on billboards. Monetizing can go a long way depending on how you do it. I have no trouble with the price increase but there are other ways that you could go to not hike the price that high in my opinion.
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I am paying for Eve Online since 2008 and honestly, I had a great time.
I understand that companies increase the price, but people expect a related value. Should I pay 30% more for a subscription or not?
- The launcher does not start on my machine anymore. (I am sure it is solvable)
- I watched a short version of the keynote, but I could not find anything that makes me excited about the future.
- If a company decides to raise the price to top tear level, I expect top tear quality and top tier content.
- We have new graphics, new ships, and new rooms of space like wormholes and pockets, but that is nothing new.
- Planetary Interaction was something brand new.
- I joined because of “Walking in Station”. Now, one of the main competitors of Eve is doing it and it works.
If I pay one of the highest fees, it has to be top-notch with cool and innovative features.
Sadly, I do not see innovative features and during the last years, there was not much in this direction either.
For the old price, I am sure I would have extended my time, but I will not do it. Maybe I will come back if I see innovative features that match the price.
I understand a typical product cycle, so I do not expect a new innovative phase, but if you do, please send me a mail and I will be back.
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What do you base this on? Game Magzine article, report, crystal ball or rectal exctraction?
It is true what you said last December 2021 on Broadcast 4 Reps.
“We play Eve Online because we love it.”
Where can I see CCP Quarterly financial posts?
You’re looking for the pdfs from each call, and then look at the revenue breakdown by IP (since CCP doesn’t really have any other IP on the market).
From there, you can check the company-wide breakdown for operating expenses and extrapolate a bit (as of 2018, they had 250 employees, for example1) to work out a rough idea of the breakdown.
1. 2018, of course, was the year they slashed payroll in order to get the company as lean as possible for acquisition, as well as the year @CCP_Guard left the company (but if you’re reading, we totally still love you and miss you, Sveinny!), so if that number is post-cutbacks, they’ve definitely expanded since then. And remember, they said something about 40-60% of the company hadn’t been around for the last FF in 2018.
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PA Annual and quarterly reports
I found the reports, read them. EvE has been carrying PA’s water for them. Inflation is not the cause of cost increases, failed or failing PA IPs are. I found 6 profit making quarters across 2020, & 2021.
When I say profitable PA covered all corporate costs, salaries and BONUSES and still had money to post a profit on. This does not appear to be possible without EvE online doing the heavy lifting.
Thanks for pointing out the info it helped me decide what to do regarding EvE Omega time.
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So did the russian leaving temporarily hurt their profit? Are they using EvE to finance other shitty projects or just milking it dry till it crashes?
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The Russians being blocked from paying definitely hurt their profits.
Considering literally the only thing Hilmar announced during the Opening Ceremonies was ‘a still unannounced shooter’ (Seriously, he announced that it was unannounced. 
)… yes.
Maybe.
Hello everyone,
Following this debate within the framework of the announcement by CCP of an inflation of +33%, I therefore personally opted for option 2- and I wish to share with you, after a week of very miscellaneous, my experience of restructuring my PVE expert OMEGA clone into an ALPHA clone.
Observation n°1: I first set myself an objective, because this restructuring must be taken as a game in its own right; you have to know how to have fun in such a situation, which is my case: I therefore opted for a conversion of my 100% Gallente character, towards a character with the same name but 100% Mordu,
Observation n°2: it is a question here of restructuring its equipment, its ships and its skills so that one can continue to benefit from New Eden on the basis of its own assets already financed by its investments previous (both in time and in real money due to past subscriptions, which in my case already represents a few thousand euros over 19 years - you’re welcome CCP),
Observation n°3: in order to be more efficient, I first grouped together all my equipment and ships in high-sec close to the Dodixie market, while remaining 17 jumps from the Jita market; this exercise necessarily requires round trips to Jita in any case due in particular to manipulations of extraction/injection or sale of skill points, the Dodixie market not being optimal on this point; it is safer to do this on Jita,
Observation n°4: in order to be more careful, I have also prepared an Excel spreadsheet allowing me to plan the operation as cleanly as possible, all in order to guarantee me an optimal return on my returns on past investments; it is necessary to limit the losses to the maximum knowing that there will necessarily be some anyway due to lack of time,
Observation n°5: finally, in order to be everywhere at once and to sell with the least possible losses, I used New Eden’s online trading database: EVE Tycoon there is no better to my knowledge, knowing that you have to know how to seize in real time, the slightest sales opportunities for the best return,
Observation n°6: from there, you have to proceed with the thousands of mouse clicks without ever shaking, and you have to proceed without ever stopping while unrolling your planning properly,
Observation n°7: for a character whose assets represented approximately 20 billion ISK before the operation, my losses are therefore around 20%, in other words, my character 100% Mordu ALPHA oriented PVE weighs on its own 16 billion ISK of new assets today; the operations of extraction/injection of skills also lead to losses of 20% (of 500,000 points extracted against 400,000 points reinjected), having always taken care never to proceed with reinjections as long as the character remains above the threshold of 50 million skill points in all - you have to know how to wait, extract massively as planned, then only then reinject; this rate of 20% is therefore an incompressible rate of loss of both skills and equipment,
Observation n°8: the manipulation of skills is also an opportunity to sort things out; due to CCP’s constant manipulation of the rules of the game (their decades of cheating), you have no idea as a player how many skills have been learned in the past and have become completely obsolete over the years; this restructuring of the character is therefore the occasion for a major cleaning; today, my character 100% Mordu ALPHA oriented PVE starts again on a solid base of 37 million skill points, which is more than enough,
Observation n°9: and the funny thing is that at the end of the story, we are again virtually rich; enough to find a smile and have fun again in New Eden!
To hell with the new CCP rules! To hell with this OMEGA at +33%!
For me, the hour of the revolution of the ALPHA player characters called PJ has come! And it is indeed CCP who provoked it!
We will never be your cash cows!
Try To Fly Safe Again.
Ully Loom
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Ok.
Fanfest has come and gone.
Content features were announced. Some good. Some bad. ALL of them with a healthy slathering of CCP branded SOON™
And yes, I’ve been playing long enough to remember that EVE meme.
With that in hand:
What has gone up:
- Staff wages. Fair enough.
- Energy and hosting costs. Fair enough.
- I’m sure that Pearl Abyss wants a bigger slice of the pie. Fair enough as lord and masters of CCP.
- Compute power per $ has also gone up, along with computer power per watt.
- The efficiency of the code that is EVE has been increased. Most of the original obsolete code has been gone through and brought up to 64bit and better efficiency.
So, on the surface, EVE should be cheaper to run and host than it ever has been before, especially if CCP has been “paying as they go” for hosting and maintenance.
And no mention of any sort of discount for people that have multiple characters in EVE. Remember that players ARE content for an MMORPG. So, the people mining, making stuff, etc… are basically paying for the privilege of being what an NPC would be on another game.
So, hate on multiboxers all you want. As long as they are not botting, they add content AND help subsidize the game. Either through hard cash OR burning PLEX and holding up the floor on that currency.
Yea. Losing the Russian revenue sucks. Figure out what load the russian player base actually put on the servers and start darking part of the cluster to offset costs to match compute demand on a short term basis.
With all of this in mind, and the depth of Pearl Abyss’ pocketbooks, throwing out an up to 30% price increase for content that is coming SOON™ is a bit crass.
Sure. Drop a modest price increase to cover the increases in the hard costs of doing business. But save the big price hop for when content gets dropped. I’ve been around for “Walking in Stations” which was coming SOON™ and a host of other coming SOON™ features. I was there for $80 monocles, which were put into place to keep the sub prices at $15 per month.
Pearl Abyss is there to front capital for content creation and development. That is what parent companies are for.
Given how things have worked in the past, I can understand the salt when CCP asks for money in advance and promises to deliver down the road. That hasn’t been their strongest suit and certainly something that they shouldn’t ask players to bank on.
Will I quit EVE over this?
Nope. Sorry, you can’t have my stuff.
Will I be changing the subs on my characters to get me through the next year at the old rate? Yeppers. I was going to do that anyways. Well, I will be dropping one character. So 6 down to 5 and I’ll jam them into 1 year subs at the old rate. That will give CCP another year to see if they can translate SOON™ into actual content and get my primary character to the 20 year fanfest.
I figure I’ll go to that event, celebrate what was EVE and either commit to being in EVE during the third Decade or end fanfest, sit at the base of the EVE statue with my laptop and Concord my stuff at Jita 4.4 as a shining end point of my time in EVE. (No. You still can’t have my stuff. Eat my ashes if that gets you stiff…)
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Ok amigo.
Money talks. I just paid the year subs for the five out of six characters that will remained subbed.
$657us pesos directly payable to CCP / Pearl Abyss effective immediately.
I then shut off the renewals.
Y’all have a year plus a bit (Some expired in a day, some accounts at the beginning of next month) to earn the renewals by taking CCP branded SOON™ and turning it into:
- The promised product or visible and measurable progress towards the promised content.
- Some flavor of bulk / multiple character discounts.
Best of luck. May the CCP of 2022 be better at delivering SOON™ flavored content at promised at FanFest than the CCP of 2010 was at delivering SOON™ flavored content.
Some of us were here in May of 2011 and we remember how well getting really greedy goes for y’all. Most everybody that I loved playing with left then.
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I did the same thing, but only for six months. Come December we should be able to see how the story arc and fourth quarter expansion turned out. That will be enough for me to decide.