mine as on a fixed income. i do 1 every month for 3 months so each month i’ll let 1 drop. I’ve seen nothing I really like or have liked in the last 2 years. I’m way older but the game gave me a job guess I’ll have to take atv out and start rock hounding
I WAS going to set it up to where I had an account renewing on a 1 year plan every two months.
So, CCP got everything 5/6’s of the subscription fees that I was planning on spending on EVE for the next 12 months in one fell swoop.
But it cost them that 6th account’s revenue… Which puts them at $40ish US pesos less revenue per year from me IF they can deliver SOON™.
Maybe something that the focus groups missed when they were doing the numbers is that I would have kept contributing to EVE while rarely playing because I loved the concept of EVE as a thing and not necessarily a form of entertainment.
My EVE playstyle for years has been log in to collect the rewards, update the skill queue as needed and play a few hours every few months. My load on the servers (and incremental costs) can be reasonably hosted on a mobile phone processor Most of the people that I played with quit the game in May of 2011.
But EVE as a concept… A place… A Universe was worth the reoccurring costs as long as I could afford them.
Even after they sold WOD
Even after they sold out to Pearl Abyss.
But then they slammed down a 30% price increase and that was a big enough jump to make me pull out a calculator and actually figure out what I was spending…
Whoops.
The story of putting a frog in water and slowly turning up the heat thereby boiling it alive is an urban legend in that it only works when you remove the frog’s brain beforehand.
But had CCP had been a bit smarter, they could have slipped in a $1.00 per month bump and I would have been a happy brainless EVE frog and they would have gotten another $72 a year from me. Now they are $40 down on revenue AND have drawn a line in the sand where they HAVE to perform to get back some or all
of the subscriptions and HAVE to create something that I fund as entertainment, not just as a vessel of fond memories.
And the 6th account? That was the one I got for my son so his name would be on the EVE statue so if I managed to loop him into the game, he would be “he” . Zero server load. And now zero revenue and damn near zero chance of him being part of the next generation of EVE player…
Whoops again.
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very interesting！！！
Hello everyone,
And kudos to @Ubi_Dellmar ; what a pretty proof of integrity that is!
Thus are emerging the first strategies of each other in response to this unjustified announcement of a +33% increase:
1- Definitive defection from Eve Online,
2- Reduction of the number of accounts per player,
3- Degradation of OMEGA clones into ALPHA clones (my choice)…
In any case, we veterans do indeed remember 2011 and its sad consequences very well!
Personally, I also and above all remember the words of Eve senior producer, Arnar Hrafn Gylfason, who said this in particular to the press:
“In the months leading up to Incarna, we failed to properly acknowledge the sentiment of the community and I think that’s a lesson we’ve learned extremely hard, […] hopefully a mistake we’re never going to make again.”
And it’s always here for the record, especially for the porous memory of all those who, here as elsewhere, only permanently know how to denigrate the words of dissatisfied players, but never those of CCP:
Q. What remains of all his relevant analyzes dating back to 2011, in the minds of the current Staff of CCP, if it is absolutely nothing with regard to the latest cosmetic updates?!
But the worst thing is that on the side of CCP, we always seem so proud and condescending to know how to evade all the real problems that have always been raised by all the players, whether very recently in the context of hollow Fanfest announcements 2022, or even here within the framework of the exchanges of this forum.
EvE Online is no longer the persistent world it once was! It has become over the years nothing but a real milking machine, and this with the blessing of the sacrosanct CSM who literally goes to bed!
We will never be your cash cows,
We are simply your customers…
New Eden must therefore above all find its child’s soul. I remember as if it were yesterday these first moments of 2003, when I discovered with my friends, the infinite universe of New Eden. We were pioneers. I have also carefully kept the unique CD box set for the launch of the first version of the game! And I still have this collector’s version of EvE CONQUESTS, the sublime and epic board version of EvE Online, which young players probably don’t know!
Hilmar! Please ! Make us dream again and stop thinking numbers! I said how you should go about it…
New Eden needs balance!
Try To Fly Safe Again.
Ully Loom
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Honestly all the arguments I see are based around paying the 20$ for EVE
What about paying 11$ for a 2-year sub? What’s your take on that?
Other than that many agree people want new content for the money they pay for. But if you know you will be in EVE for at least 2 years take that monthly discount and save money?
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Glad to know you have that much cash just laying around, but don’t assume everyone does or can spend it on a game.
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Alpha and occassional Omega with PLEX should fix that for you, whilst you fix your economic issues.
Savvy shopper uses offers or perhaps negociate a bulk deal with a lot of players?
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Interesting. Eve and your stuff IS the NFT. When I reflect a bit on how I feel about it, I guess I’m that way a bit.
The Christmas season deals are what rope me in.
I get that but just me being a great shopper. Gotta work the budget sometimes. Plex for a few months. Save that 20$ a month and I am quite sure many will have saved the $$$ to buy bulk omega.
If you can afford the base 20$ a month then I believe a person will have the means and the consumer smarts to save up $279.99 at $11.29 a month. It appears to be a great discount over 2 years! And if people are so concerned about monthly subscriptions, they should take this nice discount CCP is offering now to offset their price increases.
Many people buy in bulk! Many people look for those sales I personally took advantage of when CCP discounted omega to 425 plex.
Possibly I believe is they think they don’t have the faith to play EVE for 2 years myself. Seems reasonable myself if people consider this to be in their entertainment budgets.
EVE can really be a nice guide on how to responsibly work towards a goal every month and having extra ISK to do fun things.
With the game randomly changing every 2 months and the risk of CCP wrecking your gameplay for no reason other than ‘the goons dont like it’ paying 2 years in advance seems like a pretty huge leap of faith. They alreaydy ruined my gameplay for sure and i dont want to give them anything until they repair the damage done, i know they wont but i can dream.
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We live in a fluid and dynamic world. CCP has made it clear at this fanfest that they will be doing lore releases and being more ambiguous than ever. The empires are vastly bigger and stronger than us. This is really what sets EVE apart from Star Trek Online for example. As STO just focuses on just releasing new gear and chapters every so often. EVE to me is more of a grand event scale type of game. With that brings some of the changes that not everyone agrees with.
I have come to appreciate this aspect of EVE and I try (EMPHASIS ON TRY) not to look at each PVE activity as its own “ride” in an amusement park somewhat to what STO is currently. Some people just don’t appreciate the storytelling/lore of this.
It’s a mindset really, I am a newer EVE player in respect to the history, so I am more open to everything. Some players are just older and more fed up with what they see around. I do agree it is a strong consideration if people want to be here for 2 years or so whether actively playing or literally training skills.
These price changes are a horrible idea. 
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Not anymore for me…
When did CCPs words ever followed action except for finances?
Since starting EVE in 2008, there have been many changes. I have certain physical handicaps which make me a poor PvP player. I have always been aware that Eve is primarily a PvP game, but as a PvE player I did feel welcome. Over the years I have witnessed all kinds of nerfs to the play style I enjoyed very much.
Needle by needle the camel was stressed. The enjoyment has steadily decreased. I no longer feel the value perceived is worth the cost.
I have 4 accounts, currently 3 Alpha 1 Omega. Mostly I subscribe my main, and sometimes subscribe one additional account. The annual sub on my main expires in September and renewal has been cancelled. Though I have limited retirement income, I can afford to pay $40.00 for 2 subs, month by month, or pony up for an annual sub or even 2 annuals.
Point is, my limitations combined with the constant nerfs to my play style no longer return entertainment value. So I will check in from time to time, CCP might make changes in the future I like.
The last few research projects are winding down, then I’ll take a vacation from Eve and spend more time in EQ, Wow, OOTP Baseball, Scourge of war Waterloo, you get the Idea.
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My question is why would you want to pay for a year or 2 when they change the game drastically so often. I’m very much in the same boat as you are, but after some of the changes in the last 2 years have pushed me away from the game and to pay more when you enjoy less idk
So, the Q1 #s are out.
If you look on P6, EVE’s #s appear to have held more or less steady, with only a tiny loss from 18.4 billion Won to 18.2 billion Won. (The decimals are missing, but previous presentations make it clear.) The good news for CCP is that that’s up from 17.6b KRW from Q1 2021, so an increase of 3.4% year-over-year.
However, as Noizy points out… that’s in Won. In Dollars… I’ll let him tell it.
Overall, I strongly suggest reading his entire post about the call. He does this every quarter, and it’s always good , solid analysis.
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Pearl Abyss has reached -80% retracement after the parabolic euphoric rise.
I guess they bought into that during the “lockdown mania” into online company services.
Still room to fall.
Figure 1: Pearl Abyss monthly data points
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They’re also still waiting on the release of Crimson Desert, and in kind of a holding pattern until then. The Chinese launch of BDO… kinda flopped.