ex Pepsi CEO destroyed Apple via licensed clones like a commodity PC.
iPod is dead, and they will regret it as nobody goes to the gym or on a run with an iPhone strapped to their arm. Proof? iPods are going for thousands on ebay, runners are in uproar as no alternative.
Thereās old products that still manage to do good, true everything will end up dying but it doesnt have to be now. The cause is CCP (or pearl abyss whatever) failed to create meaningful changes. All they did in 2 years is remove stuff from the game, the only reason EVE didnt crash harder or earlier is because thereās a dedicated playerbase and people ready to give them a chance. But this unjustifiable price increase will eventually dry them out too. Cause the dedicated playerbase DO multibox more than the casuals, and those are the hardest hit by this change.
Good. Multi-boxers are what ruins gaming.
Ermagherd, look at that! They must be doing something really right!
A 25% drop in PCU from 2012-2016 isnāt something you can ignore and roll into āEVE had more people than before CCP owned it!ā
Put the CSM dates on the points on the graph. CSM was created at the peak, everybody knows the decline comes after a peak.
The CSM was created as a result of the scandal that precipitated the decline. Casting the CSM as a cause is like saying āyou know, you had 2 legs before you went to the hospital. You only lost your leg because you went to the hospital.ā when someoneās been in a car accident.
It hasnāt changed the decline trend WITH the CSM has it. Scandals, you mean like the wizard hat and booze one or the other ones? If you have a short memory, I can link you the video.
Those terms are acceptable. Enjoy your higher priceā¦
No, I mean T20. The Wizard Hat incident was one for which Mittens not only accepted his punishment, but as soon as he sobered up and realized what heād done, he resigned from the CSM before CCP weighed any punishments, apologized to the miner in question, and gave that miner all of the assets her had in the game, all before CCP decided to ban him. He then, as I said, accepted the ban without complaint.
Honestly, trying to reach back over a decade to dredge up a ādrunk dumbass does something dumb while drunkā moment that nobody has ever denied or tried to hide from isnāt exactly a strong move.
If I had 1 isk for every cruel thing I said in localā¦
If I had 1 isk for every cruel thing said to/about me in localā¦
If I had 1 isk for every horrible thing Iāve deserved to have said but wasnātā¦
Iād be poor. Cuz people say that crap. 
So the T20 incident was yesterday?
CSM or no CSM, Pearl Abyss owning it or not owning it, this game is in decline. Peak was 2013.
I would rather not have the CSM and the fake parade and pretence. They could save some money that way too.
If CCP want my input, itās on the forum and in their github.
I have yet to receive a survey for my feedback either from CCP or the CSM (via CCP tools to protect my privacy from the CSM). How about a player referendum on issues, managed by the CSM except privacy protecting via CCP tools.
The only thing I get from the CSM is spam in chat and eve mail for votes every year.
If we ever dare criticise or question the CSM, we get some form of social or forum punishment, including pontification from CCP or ISDās about what an honour it is to have the CSM, they then proceed to remove any critical posts.
Weāre expected to only do one thing, LIKE THE CSM or ELSE. How dare we oppose, question it or criticise itā¦
Nope, but it still remains the primary reason the CSM was created. That doesnāt change the fact that trying to bring the wizard hat incident into this is a particularly weak and silly move. You want to try to link the PCU-decline to the CSM, youāre going to have to refine your data and come up with something that actually works instead of flinging around implications that the creation of the CSM flips the slope from āgrowingā to āshrinkingā.
The first CSM results get announced on May 21, 2008. So horrible is the impact on PCU, that it continues to grow for four and a half years, until Dec 9, 2012.
Flinging wild accusations around, and then resorting to literally one of the most tired and well-mocked memes in EVE Online doesnāt change that, and it doesnāt lend you any credibility.
They really donāt.
That sounds a lot like you think the CSM have a huge amount of control over which issues CCP addresses. They donāt. They can advocate for something, but they donāt have any actual control, and they tell you that every year.
Feel free to oppose, question, and criticize the CSM. Just understand that when you do it in response to me, using incorrect claims and implying things that are completely untrue, or resorting to personal attacks against people who havenāt been on the CSM for over a decade, Iām gonna point out the bullshite and call you on it.
Is this increase across all currencies? $20 Ā£20 20 Euro? Could somebody please clarify.
Last year in UK we had a 20% price increase for subbing and this year we are getting another 30% added on ā¦ from Ā£9.99 to Ā£15.00+ in a year 50% in total. The game isnāt worth that silly amount of money and I have un-subbed my 6 accounts and CCP will not get the extra amounts from me that I spent on PLEX.
Only if you pick the worst subscription tier.
Alpha is free, 1 Omega account is also cheaper than 6. 2 year is cheapest subscription, not a large increase.
Great, more unique players in space then.
We need more itemised billing for features. See More itemised billing for features
you are just making assumptions with nothing to back up your opinion .I will just mention 1 csm member witch we all know and voted for, the hero of pandemic legion @Kenneth_Feld he was all over the twitch shows saying how much effort and hard work he put into the industry changes with the developers of ccp .And the industry changes is something good for the game that we can all agree on .So csm is out there working along side the devs , well not all the csm members are so active but when you got kenneth i do not think you need someone else . About the game decline you should rly watch the charts that where shown in the fan fest presentation .After watching that , i have full confidences in ccp and the vision they got for the game , and donāt forget the multi tool off ccp the person who fixed the huge issues that where troubling the player base for so many years ccp rattati .so stop whining and just pay the 30 $ for your account.
Fund the CSM? I donāt think so, somebody else pays.
Linux customers get little to no support officially, why would I fund being a second class customer?
Somebody else pays, I fully support the price increase, the purge of multi-boxers and disbanding the CSM.
In case you missed other topics in Linux subforum, CCP advised playing as Alpha if Linux gamers are in doubt of breaking changes since they donāt officially support Linux. I PLEX Omega so somebody else pays.
disbanding the csm hmu i could go for that but then again how could we all benefit from the bright ideas of kenneth?I just want to put kenneth and rattati together it would be like Moses guiding us to the promise land .